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Re: The Protocol [was: Syntax] is API Fallacy

  • From: "Jonathan Borden" <jborden@m...>
  • To: "Ingargiola, Tito" <ti64877@i...>, "XML Developers' List" <xml-dev@i...>
  • Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:06:03 -0400

syntax protocol api use
Ingargiola, Tito wrote:

>[JonathonBorden states:]
>>     That's exactly my point, there is no reason not to layer IDL on top
>> perfectly good protocols such as HTTP and SMTP. There is no reason not to
>> use perfectly good standards such as MIME.
>Certainly this can be done, but one has to wonder why one wants to do it.
>I've played extensively with manipulating DOM structures remotely via CORBA
>(see http://www.objdev.org/index.html for some details) and the bottom line
>is that the granularity of the DOM is inappropriate for significant use in
>distributed system.  You're better off in nearly all cases simply firing a
>stream of XML at whoever needs it.

       You are suggesting using the DOM to model your distributed objects.
This is a bad idea. You are correct in your conclusion that this is a bad
use of granularity, though I've never tested this out myself because it is
evident by a quick analysis of round trips. What I had suggested was to use
XML to marshal objects by value (MBV) which specifically gets around the
network roundtrip killer.

    Furthermore I am suggesting that by enabling use of web native protocols
under currently available distributed object systems we can move toward a
better integration of distributed objects and the web.

Jonathan Borden

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