RE: Lotsa laughs
Hi Lisa, You said: > It won't be ignored. It will have to be dealt with, just like any other > pseudo-standard widely implemented Microsoft creation. > Oh I'm sorry, did I say pseudo-standard? I meant just like any other > proprietary format. reply: More and more I am getting confused by the word "standard": a) Sun claim that Java is a standard but still keep control on it. However, they try to find an organism to put a stamp of approval or a "standard" stamp on this even if it remains that most of Java is a Sun production and that the API is mostly a SUN byproduct. Even with that state of fact, a lot of people embrace the Java as a standard song. b) European ECMA organism at some time declared that some part of Win32 is a standard. There is even a group of people that implement the Win32 API on other platforms(this is not mainsoft or Bristol). They are not suited by Microsoft . But Win32 is said proprietary c)W3C is a consortium of several companies and produces "standards". However the W3C composition is mostly American. Could we say that W3C produces international standards? d) ISO is an international organism with representative from different countries. But ISO weight seems to be less and less significant. e) Sometime a group of manufacturer comes with a new common API and declare this as a standard. f) some Linux group claim that their version is the "standard" Linux version. g) IETF is also producing standards. Is IETF more or less democratic than W3C? Is IETF representive? h) Is what a group of people choose a standard? Is a market share a standard. English is the "de facto" official US language. Can I clainm that we got 1000 signature to state that laplander is a US language "standard". Will this group be taken seriously? are we doing the same thing in our field? I do not say that one is better than the other. Just ask: what do the word "standard" means now. What is behind this word? It seems that the word "standard" is a new modern marketing magic wand. what do this means exactly? If W3C has 320 members and claim to produce "standards". Does this means that if I get 320 friends (not from the same company) and produce a spec, could this be a "standard"? if not why? Did we forget some historical lessons when at some period of time people where claiming authority based on some "standards", even attributed themselves the right to burn people not conforming to the "standards". So, what this word really mean today? disguised power struggle? Do "standard" really mean "against Microsoft" (this does not necessarily I am for _ and that I have to say this just put more emphasis on the quest to find the real meaning of "standards") ? Do "standard" mean... What this word really means anyway? What is really behind it? PS: about the URL stuff and the Biztalk site. The specs says that a URLs having spaces are to be transformed so that the spaces are replaced with %20 or encoded before "name resolution". Some browsers do this when the URL is typed in the address box but not when the URL is contained in a text. Is this a bad implementation? maybe. However we can say that this omission could leads to problems as you experimented on this site. Where is the breakdown? in the browser that do not do the transform or the author that do not manually do the transform (from " " to "%20")? And, what is objectivity then? What about the reflex of some members of this list to claim guilty without doing some homework? Why not instead report the problem to Mozilla.org so that we can correct the problem. regards Didier PH Martin mailto:martind@n... http://www.netfolder.com xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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