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On Sat, Mar 20, 1999 at 01:52:46PM +1300, Andrew McNaughton wrote: > > At 02:46 PM 3/19/99 -0600, Paul Prescod wrote: > > >In other words, XML is as asymmetric as SGML. Actually neither is > > >really very asymmetric because you can't (well, shouldn't) get > > >data into them before you have designed your document type. So > > >input and output are both pretty difficult if you compare them, > > >say, to Microsoft Word which is usually the benchmark people use > > >to demonstrate how hard SGML systems are to build. > > > > Ah, but if MS Word had a simple "Save-To-XML" option that let > > users save their documents using markup based on the styles > > they've built. Three times now, I've seen organizations that had > > done a lot of very good informal work with Word styles, and no > > easy path for those structures or the documents that use them to > > move to XML. I guess the incentive just isn't there for MS to > > make life easy. There are tools to do it, but it's still not much > > fun. (Another painful case of asymmetry.) > > > > Simon St.Laurent > > Word does have a "Save to RTF" which looks like it could be useful > as an intermediate step. It is, in part. We have developed an extensive legislation management package for the Tasmanian government (an Australian state, for those who don't know). The drafters use word with a collection of macros to create the appropriately constrained styles and formatting for export to RTF. The RTF is then translated into an SGML document using custom code. It is an ugly solution, and a far cry from the utopia of a mainstream SGML editor, but it works, and it is only ugly for the implementors -- the users love it (more accurately, the users are oblivious to the ugliness; I have no idea whether they love it or not). Cheers, Marcelo P.S.: For those interested in legislation, the Tasmanian legislation system is, AFAIK, the first body of government law in the world to go online. EnAct (the product we built on top of SIM) is enshrined in law as the official source of legislation, it is not a mere copy of some hard copy. Better still, anyone on the web can query it. It also supports point-in-time queries (e.g. you can query on the law as it was two years ago). Go to http://www.thelaw.tas.gov.au/ to have a go at it. Cheers, Marcelo -- http://www.simdb.com/~marcelo/ xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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