Re: Re FPIs for RFCs
> From: Murray Altheim <altheim@m...> > Maybe I'm confused by this point, but only the owner has the right to > create FPIs within their namespace. Who gives this right? What law or cases say that, if internic.net makes a file publically available on an archive-server, I cannot use its address inside a 9070 identifier? Unlike that English newspaper case, I am not passing off the thing pointed to as mine, I am *not* passing it off. ISO standards are not law. FPIs are merely a statement of fact, in a standard form. Statements of fact cannot be copyright, under US Law. So a telephone directory can be taken and reproduced without copyright infringement (unless there is some non-mechanical uniqueness in the arrangement), including company names that are also tradmarks. This is because names and addresses are facts not inventions. Tell me why is legal to say: image/gif is part of the Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions given in ds.internic.net/rfc/rfc2046.txt but somehow illegal to say: PUBLIC "+//IDN ds.internic.net/rfc/rfc2046.txt//NOTATION Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions::image/gif//EN"> The use of Internet Domain Names in Formal Public Identifiers is part of WebSGML. The text is currently being finalized. I have asked for clarification. If it is clarified to say that only owners of public text can make up FPIs, and that people cannot construct appropriate FPIs using publicly available facts, then there are a lot of naughty FPIs out there! That being said, I must agree with David that ISO 9070 seems clear (but contradictory to ISO 8879) on it. I will ask WG4 for ISO 8879 to be reconciled with ISO 9070. Even though I certainly do not see how it can be unlawful, if it is wrongly formed against the rules of ISO 9070, that is a good enough reason not to do it. Rick Jelliffe ----------------------------------- ISO 8879 4.223 "The portion of a public identifier that identies the owner or originator of public text". ^^^^ ------------------------------------ ISO 9070 "3.10 Owner name: the portion of a public identifier that names its owner. NOTES .... 13 The owner of a public identifier is not necessarily the owner of the object it identifies" and from the introduction: "... and an 'owner name', which identifies the originator of the public identifier" ^^^^^^^^^^ xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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