Subject:Tutor Author:Patricia Weathington Date:08 Jan 2007 02:32 PM Originally Posted: 08 Jan 2007 12:17 PM
I am new to Stylus. First time user attemping to set up my server and internet services for an API and other uses.
1) Is the product everything I need to be a great API and also
2) sell Domain names, and conduct a
3) search engine ,
4) billing service using EDI or better known as batch billing for medicare and medi-cal,
5)while distributing multiple dynamic websites in flash or none flash styles. I am also a student that is learning, therefore I will need
6) tutoring on the full aspects of the benefit of the product I purchased this weekend. When I say full product I mean the Stylus StudioŽ 2007 Feature Comparison Matrix.
7) Will I need anything else to go a long with this product besides my server and DSL or other form.
8) And is DSL the best way for my server to connect to the internet for speed.
9) Will the way I develop stylus on my server effect the speed or download time of my data.
10) Does Stylus sell any other products, and/or software to edify this software.
11) Are there written instructions in the disk that I purchased
12) Do I have tech support with my annual AUP fee, or even with out it.
13) Can the software create a browser to tour my visitors through my site,
14) Can the software create downloads for my visitors
15) Does the software come with codes to develop the above. And if not who does tutoring
I saw a web site connected in the Stylus site when I went into search ,which gave tutoring on PHP PHP5, JAVA SCRIPT , and AJAX
16) Will I be able to develop in stylus with the PHP, PHP5, JAVA SCRIPT , and AJAX concepts set forth in the tutoring section I saw.
While using the same software and server I currently have.
17) Last question: What is the minimum number of GB needed on my server to develop what I have described above.
So what I am asking with the 17 questions is this software; is Stylus a all in one package given the right script and or codes are applied. And have I purchased what I was looking for if I have the right tutor.
Subject:Tutor Author:Tony Lavinio Date:09 Jan 2007 09:50 AM
This thread became hard to follow and understand because the
messages were long and both parties concerned were posting
We are exercising poetic license in removing the intermediate
steps, and just posting the final answers in this posting.
Before I begin to answer the questions, please understand this. Stylus
Studio is a very powerful tool. But like all tools, it has specific
uses. It is designed for the professional programmer who works with XML
and has a knowledge of various XML technologies.
As an analogy, my neighbor is a builder - and a very good one. I could
borrow any of his tools, but I could not build a house. Nor does having
one tool, even one very powerful tool, allow him to build an entire
With that as a background analogy, I will try to answer your questions.
> 1) Is the product everything I need to be a API and also
Stylus Studio deployment adapters are the only API we provide. Those
adapters are used for converting various file formats such as EDI and
various line-oriented files, from and to XML. We supply no other API.
> 2)*** sell Domain names, (When I say Sell Domain names, I do not think
> Stylus is ICANN, but what I have asked will the program allow me to
> develop a website that will search , sell , and retrieve domain names
> and conduct a
Stylus Studio could possibly be used to help design such a site. But it
is not sufficient to do so. No single product would be. It could help
in designing the transforms used to display data or communicate between
servers, but since it is not a server it would not include web search
functions, nor would it include libraries or licenses for implementing
an on-line store. That does not specifically involve XML technologies
per se (although an implementation could), therefore it falls outside
the scope of a general purpose XML tool. (BTW, ICANN oversees domain
names, but doesn't itself sell them.)
> 3) Search engine, (What is meant here is will the software allow me to
> develop a website that will retrieve my data that I set up with the
> mapping feature or query.)So example if someone wanted to go to my
> site and type in Stylus will my site look like a search engine by
> developing it in Stylus and be able to retrieve that data from MY
Stylus is a development-time tool - not a run-time tool. It can help
you design portions of your web site, but except for the deployment
adapters does not participate in the actual functioning of your site.
> Become a 4) Billing service using EDI or better known as batch billing
> for Medicare and medi-cal, ( You answered this one, but I must ask can
> the software develop the standards set forth by Medicare or medi-cal)
> If you do not know please do not tell me that you do not know the
> capabilities of the development soft ware. Look to your left and
> right and in a manual or online then answer me.)
Stylus Studio includes tools for transforming EDI to XML and back. How
you use them is up to you. It is assumed that before you attempt to use
EDI, you thoroughly understand EDI. It is quite complex; considerably
more so than it appears at first glance. We do not offer tutoring or
support of EDI; even if we did, it would be very expensive. People make
careers out of dealing with EDI. Also, the enterprise license that you
purchased includes a development license for the adapters. To use them
in production, you would need to purchase runtime licenses. The cost
would depend on the size of the machine upon which you wish to deploy
> 5) While distributing multiple dynamic websites in flash or none flash
> styles. I am also a student that is learning, therefore I will need
> (What I should have asked here since flash is adobe, can the software
> develop or create animation)Things that move. Movies that play, Songs
> to listen to.
As Minollo stated, No. Adobe sells that. It is not XML.
> 6) Tutoring on the full aspects of the benefit of the product I
> purchased this weekend. When I say full product I mean the Stylus
> StudioŽ 2007 Feature Comparison Matrix. (No tutoring or seminars OK I
> understand. So send me to the areas I may find the information at.)
> But I will need a user manual. (Paper) I am not always at the
> computer I am a student. I get eye strain looking at the computer,
> and other issues being positioned for so long. So as per the American
> Disabilities Act or OK customer service you will need to provide me
> with a manual, and or audio to review your product manual in full.
> Give me an E-mail that I may send my address to for a hard copy with
> my CD. ( you gave me a phone number thank you) Thank you.
We sell hammers; we do not teach people how to use them. We will answer
specific questions regarding the tool, but since we sell a professional
programmer's tool, we make the assumption that the buyer is a
We do not provide technical support over the telephone.
We do not provide technical support via fax.
We do not provide individualized training on XML technologies, but a
quick Google search should be able to point you to many that will.
All of the documentation for Stylus Studio is available on-line, both as
HTML and as a PDF.
See http://www.stylusstudio.com/docs/ for copies. If you wanted it on
paper, you must print it yourself. We try to save trees by discouraging
the production of paper documentation wherever possible. Most people
only use a fraction of the manual; providing the PDF lets people who
must print make a printout of just the sections they care about.
> 7) Will I need anything else to go a long with this product besides my
> server and DSL or other form? (You did not answer this question, so I
> will edify.) Does your company sell anything else I will need? Or
> have a list of suggested products. Or can Stylus stand alone and do
> all that I have described. Please do not tell me you do not know,
> check and then give me a list of products that can be used with
There is so much you need to know before you start that it is impossible
to answer this intelligently. What platform? What language? What
database? What web server? What search engine? These are
architectural questions that need to be answered before the first line
of code is written, and in order to answer these you've got to
understand the various technologies and their trade-offs.
Sometimes my wife watches Dr. Phil. One of his tag lines, often
related to young people, is "You don't know what you don't know." In
your case, there is so much more that you don't know yet that is far
beyond the scope of what we (or any other single company) offers.
You will need all of the above settled, plus a variety of tools, in
order to design some of the websites you mentioned earlier.
> 8) And is DSL the best way for my server to connect to the internet
> for speed. (I understand that you are not in the IP business, you are
> not the BELL Company, or sell IP addresses, but what I am asking is
> what type of connection services are recommended by the company you
> work for or what do other user of Stylus use.) If you do not know
> please check. ***If I did not know where to receive an IP address or
> T1 line from I would have been lost with your lack of assistance. But
> I do know who I must register and pay my fees to, or have a T1 line
> installed if needed. But again I just asked what the company
The answer is, it depends. For development, you could use dialup. But
when it comes time to deploy, it depends on your user base. Nobody hear
can answer that for you. And if we could, it would take analysis of
your whole project, and would certainly be expensive and time-consuming
- not because we are greedy, but because it would take serious time and
materials and effort and expertise.
> 9) Will the way I develop stylus on my server effect the speed or
> download time of my data. (Thank you you answered the question) If I
> have problems I will send a message) But do you have trouble shooting
> tips on a manual or CD
I'm sorry, but this question makes no sense. Stylus has nothing to do
with performance at runtime. It can help you write transforms that
perform well, but only if you understand ahead of time how to tune an
application for performance. There are several experts on the xsl-list
mailing list that can help with simple questions, but for serious
performance tuning, that's a different story. You can put performance
monitors on your code (Stylus does include these) for XSLT and XQuery,
but you need representative samples of data first.
> 10) Does Stylus sell any other products, and/or software to edify this
> software? (The question is repeated above) Product list from the
> company not the software
Stylus Studio is a product. DataDirect Technologies is the company.
Stylus Studio is one of many tools you can use to build a website. The
other tools DataDirect sells are infrastructure tools such as ODBC and
JDBC drivers. Whether you need them or not nobody here can tell you.
You would have to tell us.
> 11) Are there written instructions in the disk that I purchased
> **(This is repeated above need a hard copy)
> 12) Do I have tech support with my annual AUP fee, or even with out
> it? (You answered it, so give support) ( you gave me a number I will
> call it Thank you)
> 13) Can the software create a browser to tour my visitors through my
> site, (Yes or no and how) edify the how answer you gave me.
No. Internet Explorer is a browser. Firefox and Opera are browsers.
Stylus Studio can be used to write XSLT or XQuery which in turn can
create web pages, or can be used to build the intermediate steps for
transforming data from one format to another.
> 14) Can the software create downloads for my visitors. (You did not
> answer this) yes or no and edify the how please.
No. Stylus Studio is a tool for designing certain classes of program.
What kinds of downloads? Ringtones? Wallpaper? Viruses?
If you are asking can it be used to create an application that can be
used for managing downloads, then possibly, using some XML concepts, it
could be used to create a portion of the solution.
> 15) Does the software come with codes to develop the above? And if
> not who does tutoring. (You tried to answer it there is not tutoring)
> please send a copy of the manual with codes.) tutoring is on line in a
> video is what you wrote.
Some sample code is included with the product. But this is a tool for
the professional programmer. It is assumed that when buying the tool,
one knows how to solve the general problem.
For example, the builder next door can use a regular hammer to drive
nails, or a nailgun, or a screwdriver, or an electric screwdriver, or
various adhesives - all to attach two things together. How does he know
which to use and when? He didn't learn from the label on the hammer.
Nor should you expect to learn how to use a sophisticated programming
tool just from the reference manual that comes with it.
> 16) Will I be able to develop in stylus with the PHP, PHP5, JAVA
> SCRIPT, and AJAX concepts set forth in the tutoring section I saw.
> While using the same software and server I currently have. ( This is
> a CHAT ROOM that will allow the user to interact with my server from
> their computer desk top, and even uses video ( e.g.: messenger or
> other form of audio and video or an online screen they may use their
> audio on and video equipment on )
Stylus is an environment for editing and working with XML and
XML-related technologies. If you would take the time to look at the web
site that Minollo pointed you to, you would know that the answer to your
In no place on our website or literature do we claim to help to develop
using any of those non-XML technologies.
> 17) Last question: What is the minimum number of GB needed on my
> server to develop what I have described above? (You did not answer
> this) amount of space needed on my server the function properly
We can only tell you how much space Stylus Studio takes to install to
use as a development tool. There are too many variables for anyone to
answer your GB question based on what you've provided.
But since you didn't like Minollo's answer, I will give you a number.
250 Gigabytes to start, growing by 20% a year.
(My answer is accurate to the same degree as the input data I used to
> 18) But can Stylus be used to develop my server with the XML, XSL,
> XPATH, XSLT, ( you answered my question thank you )
> 19) Also can Stylus be used with my current Microsoft server products
> that are installed or my server. Or is Microsoft, Linux or another
> server software needed to support Stylus on my server.
Minollo said, "Stylus Studio doesn't rely on any specific server, and it
supports a variety of Query and XSLT processing engines, and XML Schema
> ( thank you for your answer ) So Stylus stands alone. Stylus is not
> like other programs I need to install in microsoft operating system or
> another operating system
No, you misunderstood. Stylus Studio is NOT THE WHOLE ANSWER. It is
just a TOOL. It is used to write XSLT or XQuery that runs in another
environment, like Saxon or Xalan or something else, that in turn runs on
some operating system, like Windows or Linux.
> I understand Stylus is development software. But what the questions
> are asking is 20) what can Stylus develop.
> ***CAN IT DEVELOP AN OPERATING SYSTEM***