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Re: format-date() and negative (BCE) dates

Subject: Re: format-date() and negative (BCE) dates
From: "Michael Kay mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 23:16:05 -0000
Re:  format-date() and negative (BCE) dates
On 6 May 2014, at 23:53, Martin Holmes gtxxgm-xsl-list-2@xxxxxxxxxxx
<xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Consider this BCE date:
>  -0001-12-29

This date is in fact ambiguous. In ISO 8601, and in XSD 1.1, this is the date
two years before 0001-12-29. In XSD 1.0, it is the date one year before

XPath 2.0 refers to XSD 1.0. XPath 3.0 allows the implementation to use either
XSD 1.0 or XSD 1.1.
> If I format this using the "AD" (Gregorian) calendar, like this:
>  format-date(xs:date('-0001-12-29'),
>    '[Y0001]-[M01]-[D01]', (), 'AD', ())
> I get an invalid date:
>  0000-12-29
> There is no year zero in the Gregorian calendar. I get the same results
using OS (Julian). What am I doing wrong here? The ISO calendar does have a
year zero. If I include the E (Era) component in the picture string, I do get
"BC", but I don't see why the correct negative-one year is being changed to an
incorrect zero-year.
> This is using Saxon 9.4 (the one distributed with Oxygen 15.2).

I think Saxon tries to do this according to whether or not XSD 1.1 is enabled.
But it's likely to be not very thoroughly tested.

The statement that "there is no year zero in the Gregorian calendar" is
inaccurate. I don't think the papal bull which is the normative specification
of the Gregorian calendar made any statement on the matter (though I admit I
haven't consulted it, and my Latin is probably not good enough to make much
sense of it anyway). Historians generally use the Jullian calendar when
referring to events prior to the introduction of the Gregorian calendar. The
only definitive statement I know of that extends the Gregoran calendar into
the past is ISO 8601, and this states that there IS (or WAS) a year zero.

Michael Kay

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