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Subject: Re: retaining entity declarations while converting from one xml format to another
From: a kusa <akusa8@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:14:53 -0600
Re:  retaining entity declarations while converting fro
Hello everybody:

Thank you for all your help. Michael, yes, I do want entity references
to be copied as is.
I downloaded Kernow. But can you please tell me how I can use it to
achieve my output?

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Michael Kay <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Please look at the saxon extension function saxon:doctype.
>>
>> http://saxon.sourceforge.net/saxon6.5.5/extensions.html#saxon:doctype
>>
>> which provides the mechanism to create the entities. In your
>> case you have to re-generate the entities in XML file.
>
> I suspect that he wants entity refe:

rences to be copied, rather than entity
> declarations. The saxon:doctype extension allows you to construct a DTD
> (internal subset) containing entity declarations, and you can construct
> references to those entities using character maps or
> disable-output-escaping. But to get access to entity declarations and
entity
> references in the source XML, you need to stop the XML parser expanding
> them, which you can do using Andrew Welch's LexEv.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Kay
> http://www.saxonica.com/
> http://twitter.com/michaelhkay
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ganesh
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:23 AM, David Carlisle
>> <davidc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am sorry I forgot to mention one piece of information
>> here. These
>> >> input files were originally SGML and were then converted to well
>> >
>> > but assuming spoon.jpg is a jpeg file, the same would apply
>> in SGML as
>> > well, image entities should be NDATA (not parsed) and referenced as
>> > attribute values, not using &  ; notation.
>> >
>> >> So when I do the <xsl:copy> the entities are not copied over.
>> >
>> > parsed entities (referenced by &) are expanded by the XML parser
>> > before XSLT even sees the input. So XSLT can not copy them
>> as it never
>> > sees them.
>> >
>> > But you can not reference a jpg file that way.
>> >
>> > An NDATA entity is referenced as attribute value typically
>> something
>> > like
>> >
>> > <!ENTITY spoon.jpg SYSTEM "spoon.jpg" NDATA jpg>
>> >
>> > ...
>> >  <image ref="spoon.jpg"/>
>> > ...
>> >
>> > if you access the entity this way, then the attribute value is
>> > available to xslt and you can look up the SYSTEM URI using
>> unparsed-entity-uri().
>> >
>> >
>> > But you showed a parsed entity declaration
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > <!ENTITY spoon.jpg SYSTEM "spoon.jpg" >
>> >
>> > which would be acceessed by
>> >
>> > & s p o o n . j p g ;
>> >
>> > such a reference would be expanded by the xml parser before
>> xslt sees
>> > the data (and generate a fatal error if it is a jpeg file
>> rather than
>> > xml)
>> >
>> > As you haven't shown how you are referencing the entities in the
>> > source file I can't really guess what to suggest.
>> >
>> > david
>> >
>> >
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