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RE: HTML5 and almost no namespaces

• From: "David Lee" <dlee@calldei.com>
• To: "'John Cowan'" <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>, "'Pete Cordell'" <petexmldev@c...>
• Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:02:23 -0400

A suggest in this example namespaces are irrelevant.  A scheme (or as you
say the context) can clearly distinguish between the two "title" elements
(they could be defined as local elements). 

They could even distinguish between the different variants of nameProfile -
possibly with validation using XSD 3 (?) or at least schematron.




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David A. Lee
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http://www.xmlsh.org


-----Original Message-----
From: John Cowan [mailto:cowan@ccil.org] On Behalf Of John Cowan
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:53 AM
To: Pete Cordell
Cc: Mukul Gandhi; stephengreenubl@gmail.com; Jesper Tverskov;
xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re:  HTML5 and almost no namespaces


Pete Cordell scripsit:

> By this argument 'name' is not ambiguous because of its context.
> In fact its quite easy to define a schema that has multiple 'name'
> elements with different meanings.  I believe some would say that is
> bad design though.

But are the meanings really different?  A name is a name.  Here's a
better example:

<book>
  <title>Mary Barton</title>
  <author>
    <nameProfile>
      <purpose>legal</purpose>
      <givenName>Elizabeth</givenName>
      <familyName>Gaskell</familyName>
    </nameProfile>
    <nameProfile>
      <purpose>authorial</purpose>
      <title>Mrs.</title>
      <familyName>Gaskell</familyName>
    </nameProfile>
  </author>
</book>

Here there is genuine ambiguity between the title of a book and the
title of a person.  The name profile schema I mentioned in my last
post uses "prefix" instead.  But even if it didn't, the context would
disambiguate between book/title and nameProfile/title.

-- 
Values of beeta will give rise to dom!          John Cowan
(5th/6th edition 'mv' said this if you tried    http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
to rename '.' or '..' entries; see              cowan@ccil.org
http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/odd.html)

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