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At 09:25 PM 10/13/00 +0200, Daniel Veillard wrote: >On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 02:45:27PM -0400, Simon St.Laurent wrote: > I'm usually extremely quiet but I will ask you to back up your claim >or retire it. For the only public acknowledgment I've seen of such pressure, try: http://www.xml.com/axml/notes/JeanPa.html To be honest, I'm surprised that those comments were published, though they weren't exactly top secret. >I'm a W3C WG cochair and W3C employee. In a WG a >vote is a vote is a vote. The next point is whether at the end of the day >the spec being the result of the work is implemented, and can then go to >REC after member vote (where again a vote is a vote is a vote). And >considering implementation a larger firm is not likely to be a better >candidate to provide a timely implementation to check that the spec is >actually sound (as Jonathan pointed out previously !). For those of us not at the table, a vote is not a vote. While I would love to take your statements at face value, there is no way to verify such claims without opening the archives. My understanding is that a vote is a vote is a vote, except in certain rare situations. There are too many stories out there, especially regarding namespaces, for me not to be skeptical. >> That may just be realpolitik, of course. > > What are you doing here except politic Simon ? You started this thread >trying to show something, other read is in others ways, you're trying to >minimize other people view IMHO. I'm disagreeing with Jonathan Robie and attempting to figure out what exactly Len Bullard is saying. I think you may be deeply irritated that I'm questioning your views, but I'm hardly attempting to minimize them. >> I found it telling that a rep from Cisco, not an independent, was suggesting >> the W3C as a role model. > > Cisco is also very engaged at IETF I don't think you can point them >at being unaware of the various models. I'm not saying that Cisco is unaware of the IETF. I'm saying that I found it telling that a large company was pushing the W3C model while others were pushing the IETF model. Simon St.Laurent XML Elements of Style / XML: A Primer, 2nd Ed. XHTML: Migrating Toward XML http://www.simonstl.com - XML essays and books
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