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Subject: Re: attribute value templates in elements fetched from a map?
From: "Dimitre Novatchev dnovatchev@xxxxxxxxx" <xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 15:43:03 -0000
Re:  attribute value templates in elements fetched from
>  Is that a bit less like nonsense?

I personally still don't understand the problem...

A simple, complete example may be helpful.

Dimitre

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 7:23 AM Graydon graydon@xxxxxxxxx <
xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 10:27:17PM -0000, Martin Honnen
> martin.honnen@xxxxxx scripsit:
> > I don't understand where you use xsl:evaluate and where you bind the
> > value to $calculated.
>
> Let me try to give less ambiguous context!
>
> I've got a few hundred source elements; these group into a small number of
> structural categories.  (block, table, inline, link, etc.)  That happens
> via map lookup:
>
> <xsl:template match="*[$categoryMap(name()) = 'block']>
> ...structure markup goes here....
> ...something has to define the style...
> </xsl:template>
>
> That part works.
>
> Inside the structure markup, there's an element that defines the rendering
> style.  There are many more rendering styles than there are structures, but
> many fewer than input element names; perhaps a hundred.  The rendering
> style is usually but not always a simple mapping between the element name
> and a style name, and I could -- for at least 80% of the cases -- store
> that in the same map as element markup if I went from
>
> map(xs:string,xs:string)
> to
> map(xs:string,map(xs:string,item())
>
> So the grouping templates would use
>
> <xsl:template match="*[$categoryMap(name())('groupname') = 'block']>
> ....
> </xsl:template>
>
> and the style would use
> <xsl:sequence select="$categoryMap(name())('style')"/>
>
> and retrieve the style markup appropriate to this input element name.
>
> This is attractive because I could keep all the details in the map, making
> long term maintenance simpler; the templates and the logic are stable and
> behaviour gets driven from the map, making it easy to add new elements or
> change a style.
>
> The problem is that it isn't always a static style; sometimes other
> information that depends on the input element context is required, such as
> title depth. (title depth = "how many of my ancestors have titles?") This
> means there's extra/different markup in the style definition and a value
> that isn't statically derived from the element name. What I want to do is
> to store the style markup in the map in the same way, and populate it with
> the specific values somehow after I retrieve it.
>
> So far,
> - anonymous functions are an awkward and doubtful way to create nested
>   elements in the result tree; might as well just call a regular XSLT
>   function directly and encapsulate the source-element-to-style mapping
>   in that function
> - evaluate doesn't get me anything because I can xsl:evaluate XPath, but
>   not markup, so this isn't a way to process the elements retrieved from
>   the map to populate values
> - there isn't any way (that I know of) to say "plunk this block of
>   markup into the evaluation context like we called xsl:call-template
>   and this markup retrieved from the map is what was in the template we
>   called"
> - there isn't any way (that I know of) to put an attribute value
>   template in the element markup in the map and have it evaluated at
>   retrieval time.
>
> What I want to know is if I'm missing something, and there's a way to get
> element markup back out of a map and put it into evaluation context without
> having to use transform() and start a whole new process and pass in the
> whole input document for context anyway.
>
> (It's quite possible I am falsely enamoured of an opportunity for neatness
> and should not try to keep all of this "input element maps to" information
> in the same place.  It still feels like there ought to be way.)
>
> Is that a bit less like nonsense?
>
> --
> Graydon Saunders  | graydonish@xxxxxxxxx
> CC&s oferC)ode, C0isses swC! mC&g.
> -- Deor  ("That passed, so may this.")
>
>


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