Re: FOP : consumption memory

My soft call directly fop commands. XSLT 1.0 - and parsing through MSXML,
unavoidable because of Microsoft, still with 1.0 :-(

It is still deployed more than 400 times here, so I'm afraid the use of
another parser then MSXML would be complicated - and expensive maybe.

But just a question: 2 columns ok. Not tested yet but if I
"page-break-before" the main chapter, it does not suit? Because of the 2
columns?

Example : "page-break before" in the bibliography :

New page :
---------------------------------------------------------------
04 ECONOMIE
04 WIRTSCHAFT

Record 1...
Record 2...

Cheers and thx for your listening (to Peter too)
JP

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Eliot Kimber ekimber@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Envoyi : samedi 16 ao{t 2014 13:05
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Objet : Re:  FOP : consumption memory

I see: the two-column layout means there are no natural breakpoints in the
content before the index. The index has break points but by then it might
be too late. The back-of-the-book index could also be contributing--it's
quite long and FOP may need to keep the entire area tree in memory in
order to then resolve the index references.

As Peter says, I would suspect a naive implementation on FOP's part (I
haven't looked at the code). Would be useful to try both RenderX XEP and
Antenna House XSL Formatter--I'm sure they would both do better. If your
project can bear the cost, either product would be a good investment.

Cheers,

Eliot

Eliot Kimber, Owner
Contrext, LLC
http://contrext.com




On 8/16/14, 2:26 AM, "Jean-Pierre Lamon jpl@xxxxxxxxxx"
<xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Thank you for your response Eliot.
>I don't know if I can share these files, I must ask the principal because
>it's a mandate.
>
>The result is under :
>http://www.ngscan.com/ezpump/BibVS.pdf
>
>I'll let you know
>Regards
>JP
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : Eliot Kimber ekimber@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Envoyi : vendredi 15 ao{t 2014 23:44
>@ : xsl-list
>Objet : Re:  FOP : consumption memory
>
>If your content has natural page breaks (meaning elements that always
>start a new page) you can always start a new page sequence at that point.
>
>If your content does not have such nature page breaks then of course you
>can't. In that case, one solution would be to generate the intermediate
>area tree (a feature of FOP and all the other FO engines) and then use it
>to find elements that happen to start on new pages and regenerate the FO
>with page sequences started at those points. But that seems like rather a
>lot of effort.
>
>It might be easier to just give the Java VM running FOP more memory.
>
>If this is XML that can be shared publicly I'd be interested in helping
>diagnose this issue in exchange for the ability to use the XML for demos.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Eliot
>
>Eliot Kimber, Owner
>Contrext, LLC
>http://contrext.com
>
>
>
>
>On 8/15/14, 1:32 PM, "Jean-Pierre Lamon jpl@xxxxxxxxxx"
><xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Thx Geert but I can't spread and break pages. It's a bibliography (swiss
>>national library bibliography).
>>If someone wants the XML and XSL to test, no problem :-) I'm not very
>>professional with XSL, I maybe have done some horrors in my stylesheets
>>but
>>my question is only : why FOP hangs and the little tool works perfectly.
>>With absolute respect for people working for free tools like FOP.
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : Geert Bormans geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:xsl-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>Envoyi : vendredi 15 ao{t 2014 17:12
>>@ : xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Objet : Re:  FOP : consumption memory
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>In my experience FOP does a poor thing with long page sequences.
>>It seems to keep them in memory (for repagination maybe?) completely
>>Memory footprint for FOP goes down dramatically
>>if you have a logic that cuts the pages
>>Rather than using mechanisms such as break before
>>or similar, create new page sequences when you can
>>(eg. per chapter, ...)
>>That has helped me in the past
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Geert
>>
>>
>>At 16:33 15/08/2014, you wrote:
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I know, difficult to say without having the
>>>source, but could someone explain me why FOP
>>>crashes, hangs (memory ?) for relative big
>>>documents and a free small tool like XML2PDF
>>>render the PDF perfectly and this, dramatically quicker compare to FOP.
>>>Ive tried to play with JAVA memory etc no way.
>>>
>>>Thanks and regards
>>>JP
>>>
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