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Re: XSL wish list - page column gap/separator line

Subject: Re: XSL wish list - page column gap/separator line
From: John Cavalieri <john.cavalieri@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:52:38 -0600
Re:  XSL wish list - page column gap/separator line
Thanks Tony.  I submitted an enhancement to the XSLFO bugzilla (8962).

And FYI, I suggested that we share the names from CSS3 multi-column
(http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-multicol/).

# 4. Column gaps and rules
    * 4.1. column-gap
    * 4.2. column-rule-color
    * 4.3. column-rule-style
    * 4.4. column-rule-width
    * 4.5. column-rule

Later,
John

John Cavalieri
john.cavalieri@xxxxxxxxx



> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:56:11 +0000
> To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: Tony Graham <Tony.Graham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  XSL wish list - page column gap/separator line
> Message-ID: <87k4ujfkl0.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11 2010 21:51:02 +0000, john.cavalieri@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> I don't know if there is a current wish list for enhancements to the
>> XSL-FO spec --- if there is can we add semantics for a page column
>
> The XSL 2.0 requirements document is at http://www.w3.org/TR/xslfo20-req/
>
> Unfortunately, the survey to which it refers closed after six months,
> but you can still provide comments and feedback using the W3C public
> Bugzilla [1].
>
>> gap/separator line?  Maybe it could be similar to border and have
>> -style, -width, and -color.  Also maybe it could include .length?
>
> The requirements include some specific to columns [2], though it doesn't
> specifically mention the column separator.
>
> The XSL FO Subgroup is erring on the side of "publish early, publish
> often", but there is not yet anything about columns in the current
> Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/xslfo20/ (which I announced to
> this list today).  I won't speculate on whether columns will make it
> into the next WD or when that will be.
>
> In the interim, you are welcome to make a Bugzilla entry about columns
> and column separators: every chance it gets, the XSL FO Subgroup asks
> for public feedback on the requirements and the WD.
>
>> There are a couple work arounds like using a background image and also
>> this method described on the XEP support list:
>> http://services.renderx.com/lists/xep-support/2202.html
>
> A XSL 1.1 workaround/hack might be to use change bars, though you might
> end up with an unwanted bar in one of the page margins.
>
>> What is the proper way to request an enhancement to the spec?
>
> W3C Bugzilla [1].
>
> Regards,
>
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> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xsl-fo-bugzilla.html
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xslfo20-req/#N66484

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