Re: XSLT, Web applications, and "native XML databases"

as an experiment, some time ago, I was able to integrate Juxy
(http://juxy.tigris.org/) with eXist to do just what you have outlined
Andrew ... the result being I could apply individual xslt templates,
etc ... I never followed it up because I find working with XQuery and
XSLT to be a good match ... also I think at the time I could not get
Juxy working with an xslt 2 processor.

cheers, Jim Fuller

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Andrew Welch <andrew.j.welch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew Welch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once XSLT can work directly directly against
>>>>>> the database, XQuery's days could be numbered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bit sweeping Andrew, but it always appeared as
>>>>> a fairly natural extension to XSLT, to have
>>>>> it operate on databases rather than files, to keep the dataheads
>>>>> happy and answer the users who want to play
>>>>> with dirty great datasets.
>>>>>  I'm surprised it's not on the agenda for the WG
>>>>
>>>> If you really want XSLT to work directly against the database
>>>> you could use collection() to return the documents.
>>>
>>> false.
>>
>> How about URIs (e.g. with protocol) directly referencing eXist collections
>> with i/o "as usual" for XSLT (e.g. doc(), document(), collection(),
>> result-document()) ?
>>
>
> To explain the difference between what is available now, and what we
> mean by XSLT 2.0 working directly against the database, think of this
> example:
>
> - You have 1000 xml files stored in the database, and each of them
> have a <title>
> - You want to get those titles and group, sort and number them using xslt 2.0
> - Currently you either a) use xquery to get the title nodes, wrap them
> in an arbitrary root element, then supply that document to the
> transform (which needs to know about that new document) using the
> database's xslt extension, or b) access all documents using say the
> rest api and then extract the <title> from within the xslt...  not
> very feasible, and not taking advantage of the database.
> - When xslt can work directly on the database, you would just do
> <xsl:for-each-group select="collection(...)//title">
>
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