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RE: xsl:sort in old MSXML

Subject: RE: xsl:sort in old MSXML
From: "Claudio Russo" <crusso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:12:04 -0300
xsl sort client
Jim,

Yes I know they are optional, but as when you are in a mall, you want what you see and maybe it was not what you first come for, so if it's there you start using it. Then you find out that your application is no longer standard and wow, how to come back. 

I'll check the exslt.org for the protability issue.

I cannot afford buying such a book. They are in u$s down here and I cannot eat it after reading.

No. I don't think XSLT is bounded on the browser, but somehow, if you don't have MSXML in the IE in your machine, XSLT would not be processed (at least, this is what I understood from previous msgs, and which you also point out in your last answer: "wherever XSLT processing takes place, be it in the client or server, will require an xslt processor to be installed".

Regards, Claudio.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Fuller [mailto:jim.fuller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Miércoles, 02 de Julio de 2003 11:07 a.m.
To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE:  xsl:sort in old MSXML



> Sorry, I don't think I've confused. I understand Saxon is an 
> XSLT processor implementation, as well as MSXML. But going 
> this path seems (as I said, from the msgs I read in this 
> forum) that incorportes also other features that are not 

those features are optional to use, take a look at www.exslt.org when using such extension functions and addressing concerns of portability across different XSLT processors

> available in other processors though going to get errors when 
> processing under different environments (for instance, the 
> clients that do not have MSXML installed on their machine 
> will not be able to see the trasnformation, and I guess the 
> same occurs with Saxon).

well use u could design an app that takes advantage of client side processing, or just have everything server side.

> Probably all the confusion stands in that I still don't get 
> the architecture of the whole paradigm.
> 
> XML ---> XSLT ---> HTML/PDF/WAP/etc.
> (1)       (2)       (3) 

thats why i said to just start using it, go through examples, buy a book, goto www.dpawson.co.uk and learn some of the fundamentals. 

> (1) could be in server side, client side or both?

yes to both

> (2) could be in server side, client side or both?
> Where does (2) takes place? in server side, client side or both?

these types of questions really are not about architecture, but 'where' xslt processing takes place, which could be in both the client or server...its up to you to decide where.

> If (2) takes place in server side, do I need to have 
> Saxon/MSXML/"other processor" in the server?

well, yes.....I think that u may be thinking that xslt is somehow bounded to html browsers....they are not, it just so happens that xslt is supported in IE and Mozilla, which is great.

> If (2) takes place in client side, does the client machine 
> need to have Saxon/MSXML/"other processor" installed on it?

wherever XSLT processing takes place, be it in the client or server, will require an xslt processor to be installed.

cheers, jim
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