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Subject: Re: xslt namespace
From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:49:51 -0400
namespace wd xsl
Hi Jon,

At 10:46 AM 10/10/01, you wrote:
my main problem is with the xsl namespace (i know what a namespace is). i
always use xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" but i also see
xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xsl" which i assume is a working draft. but is
WD-xsl xsl or xslt?

Really, it's neither. One language that uses that namespace (undoubtedly the source of your problems, since no other implementation that recognizes the namespace survives in real-world use; they were all upgraded or shelved) is called "XSL" by its vendor; this language is somewhat related to one of the XSL working drafts. (I say "somewhat" because even for the few months when it was current, it was partial and also contained proprietary extensions.)


In a post yesterday, I suggested that if XSL is cheese, this other language is a soy-based Cheese Food Product.

i'm using the gnome libxsl and it doesn't like the
WD-xsl but people keep sending me stuff with WD-xsl in saying how simple things
aren't working and can i fix it.

That's a pity: join the ranks of the firefighters. This particular blaze has been burning on-and-off ever since that "XSL" was first released.


As a preventative, you might try to discern how these people are educating themselves about XSL, to see whether there's anything you can do to steer them clear of "WD-xsl". Unfortunately the problem is general and very widely felt.

 i was thinking maybe if they were using an
xsl-fo namespace they might not be getting all the xslt elements.

Nope, that has nothing to do with it.


i know there's nothing at "http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xsl" but from a user
point of view it would be logical to put either the spec there or a note about
what it is. i've gone to the w3 site but it's full of so much fud about
different things i can't tell what is current, what is redundant and what is a
prototype. is there a simple list anywhere, and have they changed the version
system to something more ummm... standard?

W3C doesn't document this problem for ... any number of reasons, one imagines. (It's hard to know where to start.)


But the archives of this list are replete with various efforts to dampen any reliance on that language-called-by-its-vendor-"XSL".

xml is *nearly* as bad as java for all the silly buzz words.

Sadly true, but what's the alternative? the evolution of technology *is* the evolution of language.


Cheers,
Wendell



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