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found em http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-xslt20req-20010214 a little birdie told me cheers, jim fuller ----- Original Message ----- From: "cutlass" <cutlass@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: ?XSLT Repository? > hello all, > > > > > > > Of these three www.vbxml.com and xsltsl.sourceforge.net contain 100% > pure XSLT > > > solutions. > > it is clearly stated, in EXSLT, where there is a particular implementation > in EXSLT; that is EXSLT,XSLT, M$, or FOURTHOUGHT parser, the focus of the > EXSLT effort is two-fold; > > a) generating function definitions through EXSLT meta data format, seperate > from implementation. > b) generating implementations that adhere to functions definition ( at least > we try, hehe ). > > in no way is EXSLT promoting less then 100% compatible solutions within > XSLT, one of the main aspects of EXSLT is if someone wants to create a > particular implementation, say in javascript, and use EXSLT syntax within > their code, they are making more portable code, in addition, implementators > (Fourthought python xslt parser,jd.xslt XSLT processor, LibXSLT for gnome > parser, SAXON parser all implement some EXSLT functions and hopefully will > go the whole hog...someday ) are building in these functions to make things > portable across parsers. > > > > All three are limited and incomplete, are created by small groups of > people and > > > therefore much more needs to be accomplished. > > i know that the EXLST effort initially involved a fairly diverse group > within XSLT community, but i think that all specs suffer from the bias of > their creators ? > > In addition, now that standard bodies such as OASIS and W3 are above the > waterline and much more accessible to the dev community at large we tend to > expect to standardize everything or at least spark off another process to > create a new specification, or in this case a new library; a quick look at > the W3 home page confirms this. The W3 is suffering from the success of xml > core spec, vastly divergent groups can work away on specs, knowing that they > will be able to integrate with other efforts, this is good, but when a new > web developer is presented with XML,XSLT,RELAXNG,RDF,SOAP,SVG to develop > with frankly they get a little lost, which is the primary reasoning for > developing libraries of functions for immediate use. > > > > I think that these examples show why a W3C-developed Standard XSLT > Template Library > > > would be an extremely valuable and useful (self-implementing) > specification. > > a pure XSLT library is more tactical in scope, its something that is > immediately useful with respect to creating XSLT, but i don't think its an > OASIS or W3 effort, its a project at sourceforge probably, with the dev > community at large adding to it. Though (as the people from all these > efforts full well now ), it tends to be a small group that actually submit > implementations, not to mention coordinating engineering stds, etc. > > before embarking on creating a library, i for one would like to see some > things added/edited/deleted to XSLT 2.0, based on the learning of these > efforts. > > btw it seems to be time again to start up discussion of XSLT 2.0 with > respect to this thread ( everyone back from vacation .... ), can anyone from > W3 comment on progress re XSLT 2.0, and also resend draft req again, i cant > seem to find it, in the lovely new XSLT generated W3 page. > > cheers, jim fuller > > > XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list > XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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