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Re: XSLT vs JSP

Subject: Re: XSLT vs JSP
From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:22:16 -0400 (EDT)
chuck robey
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Paul Prescod wrote:

> Chuck Robey wrote:
> > 
> > But that was what it was intended to be, something that an editor could
> > use to design a document.  
> 
> Do you have evidence to back up that assertion? Nobody I have spoken to
> that was involved with that effort ever gave me the impression that DSSSL
> was supposed to remove the need for specialized technical expertise.

Huh?  That was my understanding, that DSSSL was supposed to guide the
presentation of documents.  Documents are written by editors, at least
outside of the US government, which doesn't have budget restrictions of
the same size as commercial organizations.

> > Editors do that, you know, I've known
> > several, they don't ask programmers to do that for them, at least until
> > DSSSL tried to force that.
> 
> You know several editors working in medium-sized SGML or XML systems that
> write all of their stylesheets themselves? Do they do both print and
> online publishing? What style tools and languages are they using? Is it a
> policy of these companies that people hired to do "editing" be technical
> enough to write stylesheets for generic markup?

Not for any *ml, no, but for other markup languages, certainly.  My
point is that sgml and dsssl where supposed to be a markup system for
the production of documents, but the skill level required took the job
out of the hands of those who could write them.

xml and xsl seem to me, since they are more limited in scope than sgml
and dsssl, to be easier.  I don't think it's gone far enough in
simplification, but it's easier.

If you disagree with my first sentence above, could you give me the
intention for usage, for sgml & dsssl?

> 
> -- 
>  Paul Prescod  - ISOGEN Consulting Engineer speaking for only himself
>  http://itrc.uwaterloo.ca/~papresco
> 
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> move against our oppressors. We have established a solid beachhead 
> on Friday. We now intend to fight vigorously for 'casual Thursdays.'
>   -- who says America's revolutionary spirit is dead?
> 
> 
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