Re: Re: OOXML

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:31:37PM +1000, Deborah Pickett wrote:
> Case in point: I don't consider XSLT to be functional because of the 
> hoops you have to go through to get something resembling lambda 
> functions.  On the other hand, it's a great model of a declarative 
> language, at least my definition of one.

Yes -- strictly speaking XSLT and XQuery are declarative and not
functional -- functions are not first-class objects and the
languages are not based on the lambda calculus & combinator theory.

People use the term "functional" loosely to mean "declarative",
and XSLT and XQuery do have referential transparency: in a
given scope, a "variable" is always bound to the same value,
and although aliasing is permitted, the aliases are not mutable.

This is why you can't write a random number function rand() in
Xquery (say) that returns a different number each time you call it.

> Closures are something I'd be curious to see done in XSLT, though I 
> still have never come across a programming problem in real life that was 
>  best solved by using them.

It's not impossible that we'll see higher-order functions in a
future version of XSLT.  They're particularly useful for things
like sorting and grouping, for example.

Liam

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