Re: OT (browser standards)

I think, we should stop discussing more about this
topic :) Otherwise we might get caught breaking
charter of XSL-List..

Regards,
Mukul

--- Robert Koberg <rob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Mukul Gandhi wrote:
> > I was suggesting this sort of activity only.. This
> > page very well puts the need..
> > http://webstandards.org/about/
> > 
> > But this seems an unofficial body.. Its just like
> you
> > and me expressing our opinion!
> 
> 
> you do realize that the w3c is just an opinion,
> don't you?
> 
> best,
> -Rob
> 
> 
> > 
> > In this site, there is a page
> > http://webstandards.org/act/bug/ , where we can
> report
> > bugs to browser vendors.. But that mail would go
> to
> > Microsoft, Mozilla or Opera.. Its just like, when
> I
> > get an error on IE, an error page pops up saying
> > "report this problem to Microsoft.." .
> > 
> > What we need is, that W3C starts such activity,
> and
> > sets a similar kind of site... After collecting
> > feedbacks fom users, W3C can submit the list to
> > vendors.. If they can ensure enforcement, it'll be
> > great! But thats not possible, I think, as W3C can
> > only recommend standards, but cannot enforce
> them..
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Mukul
> > 
> > --- Robert Koberg <rob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Have you seen:
> >>
> >>http://webstandards.org/
> >>
> >>?
> >>
> >>best,
> >>-Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>Mukul Gandhi wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi David,
> >>>  The new standard errort you are refering
> >>>(http://www.whatwg.org/) seems to aim to
> >>
> >>standardize
> >>
> >>>new widgets like RTF controls, menus and toolbars
> >>>etc..
> >>>
> >>>Its a nice effort..
> >>>
> >>>But we already have lot of standards like HTTP
> >>
> >>1.1,
> >>
> >>>HTML 4, XML 1.0, XSLT 1.0, SSL 3.0 etc.. First,
> >>>implementation of these should be uniform acrosss
> >>>browsers.. 
> >>>
> >>>I feel, many of the specs implemented are uniform
> >>>across major browsers(I would say 65%). Probably,
> >>
> >>W3C
> >>
> >>>should make a list of things which are not
> >>>uniform(studying themself, and by taking user
> >>>feedbacks) and submit that list to MS, Mozilla,
> >>
> >>Opera
> >>
> >>>to be implemented! MS can release patches for IE,
> >>
> >>as
> >>
> >>>it practices today. I am not sure, whether W3C
> >>
> >>charter
> >>
> >>>permits this activity.. Probably yes.. It will
> >>
> >>surely
> >>
> >>>benifit users..
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Mukul
> >>>
> >>>--- David Carlisle <davidc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> The "Web Browser Framework standard" could
> >>
> >>include
> >>
> >>>> something like following list as minimum set of
> >>>> features that should be same(including spec
> >>>>versions
> >>>> like HTTP 1.1, XSLT 1.0 etc) across all
> browsers
> >>
> >>-
> >>
> >>>>the chance of getting xslt in a minimum  agreed
> >>
> >>set
> >>
> >>>>of features is
> >>>>I would say zero. Opera, Safari and my mobile
> >>
> >>phone
> >>
> >>>>don't do xslt and I
> >>>>don't see any sign of them doing so in the
> >>>>foreseeable future.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you want to see what one subset of browser
> >>>>implementors thinks is core
> >>>>browse around
> >>>>
> >>>>http://www.whatwg.org/
> >>>>
> >>>>David




		
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