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RE: Let's face it: side effects are sometimes necessar

Subject: RE: Let's face it: side effects are sometimes necessary!
From: "Dion Houston" <dionh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:39:53 -0800
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See below...

-----Original Message-----
From: Gunther Schadow [mailto:gunther@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:25 PM
To: xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  Let's face it: side effects are sometimes necessary!

<snip>

Let me tickle a bit: you don't agree with the subject line, but
how do you suppose one could use XSLT to execute a transaction
in an information system? By definition this is using side-
effects. XML driven JDBC calls through XSLT is where I find the
best use of XSLT right now (I'm not a web-designer, but a
passionate XSLT user.)

- OK, I'll bite... why do transactions "by definition" require side
effects?  I've written a prototype web server in XSLT with C#
extensions.  These extensions only fetch the next web request, and send
back a response.  

My "web server" operates in a completely stateless matter, simply by
taking XML from the request, applying templates, and piping the result
tree fragment over the wire.  It is therefore completely stateless and
side effect free, and still handles transactions just fine.

Now I will freely admit that this is not an industrial strength
application, but I do not see anything about transaction processing that
requires side effects...

Dion

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