Re: Thank you Tony (was: XSL-list doomed)

From: G. Ken Holman <gkholman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


> Again I think you are being far too unfair, Paul.

How can I be 'fair' or 'unfair' with technical issues ?

The archive of XSL-list is broken since summer
and nobody bothers to fix it. Is it 'fair' or 'not fair' - 
I don't understand. It is the *fact*.

List loops starting from October 24. It is the *fact*.

The letter I was quoting has been sent to the
list at October 24 and since then I saw this 
leter at least 3 times ( I prefere not to 
see it at all ;-)

I'm not saying is Tony 'bad' or 'good'. If he has no 
time / abilities to fix the archive in 2 months, this 
means archive will remain broken forever.

I want XSL-list archive accessible from the 
browser. If official XSL-list archive is gone, 
I can try to provide the alternative XSL-list 
website. For free and on my own time.

I just don't want to mess with usual political 
problems this may cause. So I'm trying to 
understand what is the situation with XSL-list.

Maybe Tony will write : "I'm tired of this and I 
have no time - let's move it to egroups" ?

I'm not discussing any moral issues. Plain 
technical.

Rgds.Paul.

> At 00/10/28 23:56 -0400, Paul Tchistopolskii wrote:
> >It was not my idea to bring down the XSL-list,
> >but this have happened.  List loops and loops
> >since October 24.
> 
> Wrong ... Tony (the moderator) reports the loop only started happening on 
> the morning of yesterday (Saturday) and Tony has spent time on his weekend 
> to fix it for us.
> 
> >XSL-list archive is also broken since the
> >summer ( and nobody bothers to fix it ).
> 
> This is a thankless attitude ... Tony works hard on this list and I very 
> much appreciate his involvement.  To complain that he hasn't taken time 
> from his weekend to fix the problem is ungracious and unfair.  He keeps on 
> top of the problems and is quick to respond when they happen.
> 
> >If nobody cares about supporting XSL
> >mailing list, maybe placing the list on
> >e-groups is not a bad idea ?
> >
> >Or maybe I'm missing something
> >and XML community gets some special
> >joy with broken XML-list, broken XSL-list
> >e t.c. ?
> >
> >Rgds.Paul.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Paul Tchistopolskii <paul@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:55 AM
> >
> > > If XSLT is a solution - I want a problem back.
> > >
> > > So now it becomes too hard to dig into answer to *trivial*
> > > question, like : what does version="1.0" mean ?
> > >
> > > Hell with this tool then.
> 
> Or maybe, Paul, this list could do with less complaining such as quoted 
> from you above.  It seems to me your negative attitude is not echoed by any 
> other participant and I get this impression because I hear your negative 
> attitude very often about many things.
> 
> I very much applaud Tony's efforts on this list and the DSSSL list, and his 
> freely available resources, editing environments, quick reference sheets, 
> etc. etc. etc.  Thank you Tony for your work and for helping to fix things 
> during the weekend.  Your valuable contributions to this community are very 
> much appreciated by some of us.
> 
> .................. Ken
> 
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