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[XSL-LIST Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message] Re: Rant : "Microsoft is compliant with the XSL spec"
 I couldn't resist addressing a couple of things, and raising a new question. Richard Bell wrote: > > Frankly, the amount of time and energy spent by > developers in this organisation, and I am sure many others, exchanging petty > digs @ Microsoft is scandalous. Look it's easy ... if you don't like > Microsoft's products don't use them. I don't. I use pretty much nothing but Irix - one of the few major OS's to have escaped IE - hoorah :-> - I write for Netscape only, and make a point of not testing my pages in IE. I don't believe my report falls into the category of a "petty dig" - I sat through 4 hours of M$ lying to around 100 developers about how great their software was. > You know their parser isn't fully > compliant with the spec right now, so you don't need to go to a conference > to find that out and then whinge about it. I didn't want to go - my boss made me. The whinging was just therapy. Dan Morrison wrote: > > Warren Hedley wrote: > > [a very well-written, balanced article] Balanced? Re-reading my post today, I realised I'm starting to sound like some kind of conspiracy theorist. People probably think I go home and burn BG in effigy. I apologise if this thread turns into pure M$-bashing. I actually think that some of the ideas presented were quite good - I just objected to the misinformation, particularly regarding standards compliance. > Sounds like you handled your issues appropriately. I'd have been v. > noisy ;-) The presenter was a nice enough guy - he just didn't know his stuff. I didn't really want to ruin his and everyone else's day. > What were they selling? > If the namespace was out of date, I guess it wasn't the XML component. I'm not sure, probably IE5. Most of the people there were database types and all got excited whenever SQL-server was mentioned. On a different note: I actually quite liked the idea of data islands: <xml> tags within an <body> element that may contain data or stylesheets. We were told "no more <object> tags", which I didn't like, but on reviewing the HTML 4 loose DTD, I see that <object> tags can only contain <param>s and %flow; objects anyway, so it appears you can't legally embed XML in a HTML 4 document. What I want to know is: is there a way to do the data island thing without breaking HTML 4 compliance? If not, then M$ probably did the right thing, although introducing an <xml> tag probably breaks XML compliance (Section 3. Logical Structures.) Anyone care to suggest a solution? Thanks. -- Warren Hedley XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list 
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