Re: Formatting Objects considered harmful
James Clark wrote: > There are > two potential accessibility dangers: > > (i) the danger in sending general XML together with stylesheets that > specify only visual presentation for that XML > > (ii) the danger of sending a format that contains only information > relating to visual presentation Yes, we agree so far. > Both these dangers arise equally with XSL and CSS: > > (i) arises equally with CSS and XSL because the CSS rendering objects > (or whatever you call them) and XSL formatting objects are at precisely > the same semantic level; > > (ii) arises equally with CSS and XSL because there because HTML span > element with a style attribute provides a syntax for CSS rendering > objects just as XML provides a syntax for XSL formatting objects. It's a bit unfair to pick on the SPAN element. It was introduced in RFC 2070: First, a generic container is needed to carry the LANG and DIR (see below) attributes in cases where no other element is appropriate; the SPAN element is introduced for that purpose.  http://sunsite.auc.dk/RFC/rfc/rfc2070 Also, there are things in CSS you can't do with <SPAN STYLE>, e.g. the @page and :first-line constructs. It's more natural to compare formatting objects with the FONT tag since formatting is in focus. Invented by adolescents on caffeine, the FONT tag entered HTML 3.2 in an attempt to formalize street HTML and engaging Netscape in a dialog. It was deprecated in HTML 4.0 and is considered harmful by at least two essays .  http://www.isoc.org:8080/web_ml/html/fontface.en.html  http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~mudws/font.html I can understand why overworked undergraduates think FONT is cool, but I'm very disappointed when a group of highly skilled adults tell kids to stop playing, form a committee -- and then come out with a set of supercharged FONT tags. -h&kon Håkon Wium Lie http://www.operasoftware.com/people/howcome howcome@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx the browser is the computer XSL-List info and archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
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