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What is XQuery doing wrong and why does it get ignored !?

David dlee at calldei.com
Thu Jul 22 15:46:14 PDT 2010


  What is XQuery doing wrong and why does it get
	ignored !?
re: " I have written about this topic and plan to discuss a meet in the 
middle approach at Balisage:"

!! Cant wait to hear that talk !!
< plug >
Go to Balisage 2010 !
</plug>

I'm planning an "impromptu" meet if possible on a similar topic, 
soliciting advise on how to create a XML to JSON reversible lossless 
translation that results is "good" markup on both sides.    I have some 
ideas but not a full solution and want to pick as many willing brains as 
possible.

Fact is, atleast from where I see things, the mobile/web/client side 
want JSON, but on the Server/content side we want XML.
I've gotten tired of trying to prove to the JSON folks that they are 
"wrong" and instead I've "stopped worrying and learned to love to bomb".
Now I'm trying to make it as painless as possible to provide the client 
side what they want without having push JSON upstream just because thats 
what the clients want, and let the server side use XML and XML 
technology they way *they* want.

-David Lee



On 7/22/2010 2:29 PM, Andrew Spyker wrote:
> Brett,
> >  It's not that they should, but that they can. My use case is for
> >  allowing users to run XQuery against XML stores stored in the client. I
> >  find XQuery quite elegant (e.g., even compared to the jQuery equivalent
> >  sample I provided earlier) and want to allow my power users to be able
> >  to use it against data I supply.
> I believe that you're not going to convince all web client side 
> developers to switch to XQuery.  I agree with you that I like XQuery 
> much better than the amount of JavaScript code happening in the 
> browser today (but then again I grew up that way and I didn't grow up 
> as a Web 2.0 developer).  I also see real collisions 
> in enterprise development happening today as even though 
> JavaScript/JSON is well accepted in the client tier, XML is well 
> accepted in the mid tier, messaging interchanges and storage.  I have 
> written about this topic and plan to discuss a meet in the middle 
> approach at Balisage:
>
> http://webspherecommunity.blogspot.com/2010/05/cure-for-xml-in-web-20.html
>
> The paper will be posted to the Balisage proceedings and I'll try to 
> get my slides out on slideshare in a few weeks.  I hope people will 
> find this a much better solution than trying to prove one browser 
> language is better than another.  The basic idea is we need to make 
> XML work better inside of existing Web 2.0 AJAX frameworks by adding a 
> MVC abstraction.  I think if we start to bridge the gap by not putting 
> ourselves in total opposition to the incumbent, we're likely to have 
> more success.
>
> -- 
> Andrew Spyker (http://x-query.com/mailman/listinfo/talk <mailto:http://x-query.com/mailman/listinfo/talk>)
> Blog - http://webspherecommunity.blogspot.com
>
>
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