size of XQuery developer community

[David A. Lee]

Is there such a thing at all as   "<insert generic technology>  Developer" ?
In the way your describing, the example of the # of "common SQL 
Developer" ... I think that would be Zero. 
No one develops in the abstract ...  (except perhaps theorists but then 
they don't "develop").

Every developer I know uses a technology as part of a larger context.  
To get a job done.

Hence III - IV in James' description.
I would certainly count anyone developing with MarkLogic or eXist an 
"XQuery Developer" in any practical sense,
just as I would count an Oracle Developer as a "SQL Developer".

I wont even touch the comment about who's "foolish" :)


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Vyacheslav Sedov wrote:
> to count just XQuery developers - not so clear, eXist developer &
> Marklogic developer differ from each other (compare mySQL, Oracle and
> MS SQL - we don`t count this as common SQL developer
>
> also - XQuery-centric application or Java-centric application (C# or
> other dinosaur) in first case developer is respectable creator, in
> second just foolish "coder" ("it should spread lotion  on skin" (с)
> The Silence of the Lambs)
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David A. Lee<http://x-query.com/mailman/listinfo/talk> wrote:
>   
>> Its *got* to be more then the "100s"
>>
>> Just looking at marklogic.com they list 43 customers ... and those are the
>> ones they publish.
>> There must be more then 2 developers per customer.  The ML developer
>> confrence was bigger then that.
>> Plus of course the ML dev team itself.
>>
>> And thats just 1 company.
>> Add to that Oracle, IBM and Microsoft XQuery implementations and the
>> developers just to *write* those have got to exceed the "100s"
>>
>> Then there's all the uncountable folks using eXist, xmldb , Saxon etc.
>> ( which must outweigh the paying customers by atleast 10x ...)
>>
>>
>>
>> David A. Lee
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>>
>> James Fuller wrote:
>>     
>>> partioning the question a little, I think there are 5 groups of
>>> developers with respect to xquery:
>>>
>>> I) developers who have done no xquery and never heard about it
>>>
>>> II) developers who have done no xquery but heard about it
>>>
>>> III) developers who may briefly engaged with xquery, either as a
>>> config/bug fix/hack/maintenance/research activity
>>>
>>> IV) developers who have spent some time doing some small projects with
>>> xquery as a component
>>>
>>> V) developers who have spend a significant amount of their day coding in
>>> xquery
>>>
>>> while its not possible to nail down numbers (all the usual caveats
>>> apply) I would venture that of the above groups that that the last two
>>> are limited to 100's - 1000's ... its quite possible that there may be
>>> a magnitude greater number of developers in the III) group and maybe
>>> even higher, but I have no feel for this.
>>>
>>> I base these estimations on the following purely qualitative measures:
>>>
>>> * number of recruiters calling me (I fall in the V. group) and them
>>> consistently repeating the dearth of xquery talent
>>>
>>> * number of people interacting with technologies I am involved with
>>> e.g. eXist XML Database and most of the projects I am involved with
>>> have some xquery component
>>>
>>> * xml technology conferences which number in the low hundreds, rather
>>> then thousands, of which xquery is a topic which is a subset
>>>
>>> It is clear to me that XQuery is experiencing higher adoption rates
>>> and getting used more (exp in context of XML databases).
>>>
>>> hth, Jim  Fuller
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