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Re: The illusion of simplicity and low cost in datadesign and

• From: "Liam R. E. Quin" <liam@fromoldbooks.org>
• To: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>, Roger L Costello <costello@m...>
• Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 21:36:20 -0400

On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 22:05 +0100, Michael Kay wrote:
> 
> Eric Raymond's quote would be valid if the operating system
> constrained all files to be XML, say. But it's not valid for an
> operating system that can support any file format, but can also
> reliably tell the application that it's reading an XML file rather
> than a JSON file (or more precisely, one that can identity the
> application that wrote the file and tell you what claims that
> application made about the file format).
> 

MacOS (the pre-Unix OS) could do this (to some extent). It was a pain,
and made the system massively less flexible than Unix. For example, if
i make an SVG file in Inkscape (to use today's application names), i
might then want to look at it in Inkview or in a Web browser, and i
might want to edit it in Oxygen XML Editor.

Putting the applications before the documents is the wrong way round.

However, i do agree that file extensions [expletive deleted], and the Unix "file"
command (Ian Darwin of SoftQuad wrote the public domain version of
that) is incredibly useful but limited and not 100% reliable. Of
course, nothing is 100% reliable except the statement that noting is
100% reliable...

"Open" being able to offer a choices of likely tools seems more useful
than identifying a single application, to me at least.

liam

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