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 On 12/28/2021 12:44 PM, Roger L Costello wrote: Hmm... SML conversation here led pretty directly to YAML, which definitely has traction. I think also a large part of the world has effectively subset XML to the simplest well-formed structures they can get away with. That's not likely a direct result of this list, but it's certainly been a conversation here in the past.Michael Kay wrote:we've learnt as a community that trying to improve XML doesn't work: the standard is too deeply embedded.Yes, I can see that. On this very list there have been several attempts to improve XML and none of the attempts gained much traction. I like your lesson, but I don't think most of XML's excessive complexities stem from XML 1.0. (A few do.) They mostly come from the over-enthusiastic follow-on projects.So what is the lesson to be learned from this? How about this: When creating a new standard, get it right in its first version because if the standard is a success you likely won't get a chance to improve it later on. Is that the lesson to be learned? If so, how to ensure that you "get it right"? For instance, what could the XML Working Group have done differently to get it right? Should the XML Working Group have delayed the release of the XML standard for a year or two until a sizeable group of people had had the opportunity to work with XML and report on its warts? Thanks, Simon 
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