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Re: The Goals of XML at 25, and the one thing that XML now nee

  • From: Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>
  • To: xml-dev <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 22:21:32 +1000

Re:  The Goals of XML at 25


On Mon, 19 Jul. 2021, 08:44 Arjun Ray, <arayq2@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:52:27 +0200, Marcus Reichardt wrote:

| I guess the fixation on JSON by the XML community is because JSON ate
| XML's lunch in lucrative enterprise integration, so to speak.

Bingo.

Maybe JSON shows that ultimately XML's problem in that application was that XML was actually TOO simple!  It needed more "complexity" :rules to support recognition of numbers, boolean, symbols in the syntax.

For example, say we added to XML simple typing by delimiters like this

 <a b="xyz"   c=123 d=false  e=R23456 >...

where b is a string, c is a number, d is boolean and e is a symbol.

So which is actually simpler: implementing/understanding current XML with an XML schema, or this extended XML syntax which is trivial and conventional to parse?

Now I am not suggesting that this is the way to regain ground from JSON.  It doesnt support lots of things: arrays, datatypes on data content, etc..  But it does not require schemas, and it does provide simple datatypes, enough for automatic data binding.

But when I look at all the hoops W3C XSLT WG is going through to support the bad fit of JSON to XML conversion, I cannot help but wonder whether it might just be better to make XML richer.

I am really noticing a dropoff of XML jobs this year. Maybe it is time to put some "electric paddles" on the patient, rather than leave it in its current obese coma?

Regards
Rick




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