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Re: The Goals of XML at 25, and the one thing that XML now nee

  • From: Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>
  • To: xml-dev <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 00:04:46 +1000

Re:  The Goals of XML at 25
Dan, Peter, Arjun, Mukul, Gavin ... gosh, so many voices from my past!  

Cheers all!
Rick

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:07 PM Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 07:44, Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@a...> wrote:
Let the dead bury the dead! 

Another adage is that anything that does not grow dies. I think XML has reached that stage.  It continues to be fine for what it does, but it is not now a technology that opens new doors or promotes new efficiencies. Which is just not a necessary or desirable fate. 

Thanks for the interesting thread! One thing in life is constant - RDF continues to be compared unfavourably to the fashionable file format of the day (XML, and now JSON, occasionally YAML).

I think the RDF world could also benefit from a similar "where are we now, and how might we become more useful" exercise to this one, but we can also indulge in a little "told you so"-ism in that XML data that was in the RDF/XML pattern, is via the underlying data model, totally compatible with JSON data that's in the RDF/JSON-LD pattern. You can parse out the same graph, put it in a common RDF/SPARQL data store, etc etc. So instead of hearing "hey why pay the RDF tax with RDF/XML, you could use native XML and its APIs and standards", we now hear "hey, why pay the RDF tax with JSON-LD, you could use native JSON tooling...". There is certainly a cost and some friction to having this kind of two-tier view of data representation, but there's something to is as well in terms of having an abstraction of what the document/file was communicating, for cases where the payload is simple-ish factual data rather than a tagged document.

Dan
 


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