Re: Happy Birthday, XML!

From: Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 14:31:19 +1100

Play the video

The wheel turns.

So we have had 10 years each with SGML winning at the top with long-term industrial and legal documentation from the late 1980s, XML expanding from the middle out from the late 1990s, and JSON winning from the low-end up from the late 2000s. Is it time for the next thing?

What each of them suggest is that the next thing will probably already be here, that the new big thing is not brand new, but some twist that takes advantage of existing technology in some major way that value-adds new usefulness (for SGML, it was to regularize existing ad hoc "markdown" style syntaxes and reduce the dependency on inustry-specific custom applications for all parts of the document chain; for XML, to take over from existing SGML systems and documents; for JSON, to fit with _javascript_ et al).

Looking at Tim Bray's thoughts on XML at 20 on XML.COM, I think he short-changes XML's influence in one regard: there is one major effect that I think XML )and SGML) has had that is underappreciated: it cemented the expectation that text should be annotatable with information to allow values-adds. This flooded into Java and C# annotations, which turned upside down how frameworks and development proceeds: when I see Java annotations I see the spawn of XML's attributes and processing instructions.

Regards

Rick

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Henry Luo <henry@perpetuatech.net> wrote:

As said:

It seems obvious that the most important thing about XML is that it was the first.
People did a lot of that with XML just because there was no other alternative.

So it might be time to look into alternatives, like Mark (https://mark.js.org). :-)

On Sun 11/2/18 1:48 AM, Lauren Wood wrote:

There's a shorter piece on XML.com, written by Tim Bray.

https://www.xml.com/articles/2018/02/10/xml-20/

cheers,

Lauren

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:34 AM, u123724 <u123724@gmail.com> wrote:

Since nobody else seems to bother, I've written a blog post on the
occasion of the 20th anniversary of the publication of the XML 1.0
recommendation at http://sgmljs.net/blog/blog1802.html , focussing on
XML in the larger markup context.

Right now there's also a discussion going on at
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7wgxfx/20_years_of_xml/
so come join in if you feel like it.

Best,
M. Reichardt
sgmljs.net

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References:
- Happy Birthday, XML!
  - From: u123724 <u123724@gmail.com>
- Re: Happy Birthday, XML!
  - From: Lauren Wood <lauren@textuality.com>
- Re: Happy Birthday, XML!
  - From: Henry Luo <henry@perpetuatech.net>

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