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RE: Big Data and XML

  • From: Brian Aberle <xmlboss@live.com>
  • To: Arjun Ray <arjun.ray@verizon.net>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:01:31 -0600

RE:  Big Data and XML
has been down for almost 4 days, and Arjun is the first to blat out opinions and discredit a hypothetical situation intended to help convey the concept of needed speed in XML processing.
 
What happened to take the OASIS list servers down for 4 days? Arjun, blat about that.

Brian
 
 
> From: arjun.ray@verizon.net
> To: xml-dev@l...
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:37:12 -0400
> Subject: Big Data and XML
>
> [Repost: the xml-dev list manager swallowed the earlier version; in
> fact, the list seemed down for several days.]
>
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:53:21 -0400, I wrote:
>
> | Someone wants to blat out a terabyte of mostly unchanged data every
> | 15 minutes, in XML? This is demented.
>
> In fact, there is something very artificial - or perhaps, symptomatic
> of goldenhammeritis - in all the examples or use cases or scenarios of
> XML for "big data" that I've seen so far.
>
> This particular example is no different:
>
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:16:00 -0600, Brian Aberle <xmlboss@l...>
> wrote:
>
> : Suppose you have a list of "foos". Suppose that list is very very
> : long. 1 Terabyte. Suppose that you get updated XML source of that
> : list every 15 minutes. In the huge list, [...]
>
> A list, as a unitary XML document? Thousands upon millions upon
> gajillions of "foos", all piled into a _single_ XML instance?
>
> For the love of mike, why?
>
> What was wrong with a _list_ of those gajillions of "foos", each an
> XML instance by itself (or in whatever format floats your boat)?
>
> You could then enrich that _list_ by having each item encapsulated
> with meta data - such as a unique id, payload size, etc - to optimize
> caching or whatever other high-speed, low-latency, humunous-throughput
> requirement you have.
>
> : some "foos" are new, some foos() have been updated.
>
> What about the ones that have been deleted, or expired, or otherwise
> bitbucketed?
>
> If this is state of the art in protocols for "big data", and why XML
> is touted as a "solution", I can't say that I'm impressed.
>
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