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Re: parsing markup with Perl

  • From: Stephen Cameron <steve.cameron.62@gmail.com>
  • To: Hans-Juergen Rennau <hrennau@yahoo.de>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:11:52 +1100

Re:  parsing markup with Perl
Hi

I once had a naive thought that XML might be useful in science data management. Interesting that its not made any great impact, yet, given its importance to the web in general.

For example, the concept of meta-data has a completely different meaning in science than the markup world, being something beside the data, not inside it, to the detriment of scientists I believe.

Maybe a perception of XML as a textual format is part of an explanation, where CSV is good enough for most things.

Does anyone actually use Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) Format?

Thanks




On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Hans-Juergen Rennau <hrennau@yahoo.de> wrote:
A few facts.
 
1) It is impossible to write an XQuery which requires that input XML is provided as text.
2) It is impossible to write an XQuery which is affected by any aspect or detail of the text representation of XML input, should there be such a representation.
3) It is impossible to write an XQuery which requires that output XML is serialized into text.
4) Same points for XPath and XSLT stylesheets.
5) It is impossible to write an XSD which requires that the described documents are represented by text.
6) It is impossible to write an XSD which constrains in any way any details of a possible text representation.
 
Facing all these impossibilities for a year or ten, on a daily basis, one may lose interest in the text representation of XML and concentrate on the information content.
 
Remains the question if the perspective of a person dealing with (modeling, processing, producing) XML primarily via XSD, XPath, XQuery, XSLT is of any relevance when speaking about XML.
 
Hans-Juergen Rennau

Von: Simon St.Laurent <simonstl@simonstl.com>
Betreff: Re: parsing markup with Perl
 
"
Deepest wrongness may also be profound.
"Markup is not just text" is true.  Markup is not text" is short and wrong.
"

.

"
None of which [debate about XML] even begin to happen without the text foundation.  Sorry.
  Please come back to earth.
"

Thanks,
--
Simon St.Laurent
http://simonstl.com/

 



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