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Re: Moving xml technology development outside of w3c

• From: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>
• To: Rand McRanderson <therandshow@gmail.com>
• Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 14:58:30 +0000

If standards activities in W3C are struggling, it's from a combination of two causes: lack of resources, and overweight processes.

I think the experience with EXPath is that moving the activity outside W3C doesn't solve the first problem, and while it helps with the second, you run into the opposite problem of having no processes (or infrastructure) at all. So my answer would be try it, and see how you get on.

W3C itself of course has tried to solve the problem of overweight processes by introducing community groups; it would be interesting to get an overview of how successful this has been.

Michael Kay
Saxonica

On 7 Nov 2013, at 14:34, Rand McRanderson <therandshow@gmail.com> wrote:

> Right now the core aspects of xml technology are under w3c governance.
> However increasingly the w3c is focused less and less on xml, and
> while it still has some xml-related working groups, they are
> increasingly less connected to other parts of the w3c, such as the
> browser-related web technology groups.
> 
> This makes me wonder if it still makes sense to have the core aspects
> of xml technology, such as XML DOM, at w3c. On the other hand, most
> core XML technologies have achieved a degree of stability that makes a
> lack of further development irrelevant. Moreover, the w3c gives xml
> technology a visibility that they would not have otherwise.
> 
> One thing WHATWG showed is that if people do not like the direction of
> that w3c is taking a technology, it is possible to start an
> alternative.
> 
> Now I'm not volunteering any of my time or energy, because those two
> resources have other priorities, ultimately, this is just a random
> thought, but I wanted to put it out there, mostly because it gave me
> an excuse to think rambling thoughts on a technology that has a
> special place in my heart, but I wanted to put it out there, in case
> anyone wanted to run with it.
> 
> With regards,
> Rand McRanderson
> 
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    • From: Rand McRanderson <therandshow@gmail.com>