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RE: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XMLexperiment

• From: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
• To: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>
• Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:08:37 +0000

Well, apropos the original title of this thread... 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sheets [mailto:kosmo.zb@gmail.com] 
> Sent: November 15, 2013 13:42
> To: Michael Kay
> Cc: Uche Ogbuji; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re:  [OT] Re:  Lessons learned 
> from the XML experiment
>
...
> All of this is neither here nor there, however, as we have 
> come no closer to actually understanding how XML is actually 
> at fault for this SOAP debacle.
> 

I think you've come close to isolating a major lesson for XML.

I think XML should have learned from the SOAP debacle, that
SOAP was an inappropriate application of markup.  I think this
stands in contrast to the application of markup to hypertext.

While REST came to dominate SOAP for mindshare, almost nobody, least of 
all XML and more recently JSON, got it right.

XML sought to be a success 'on the internet', but SOAP seems to me
to have played a major role in the subversion of that goal.  Perhaps
XML will get a second wind someday. For my money, that is lesson number one.

Regards,
Peter Rushforth

• References:
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: Uche Ogbuji <uche@ogbuji.net>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: Uche Ogbuji <uche@ogbuji.net>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: Uche Ogbuji <uche@ogbuji.net>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: Uche Ogbuji <uche@ogbuji.net>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: Uche Ogbuji <uche@ogbuji.net>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>
  • Re: [OT] Re: Lessons learned from the XML experiment
    • From: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>