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 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Welch <andrew.j.welch@gmail.com> wrote: > Yay, more... > >> Absolutely true. Devs are kings. That doesn't mean that everything >> they are given to do will be done competently. It means that >> everything that they are given to do will be done to the limit of >> their competence and sometimes their competence and the techniques >> they are used to doesn't stretch that far. Like for example here >> http://ravimohan.blogspot.co.uk/2007/04/learning-from-sudoku-solvers.html > > Sorry that's a lot to read - what's the tldr; summary? > > It does mention xslt and sudoku solvers, so I won't pass up the > opportunity of posting the link (again :) to my own: > > http://andrewjwelch.com/code/xslt/sudoku/sudoku-solver.html > > : ) > > >> Some are so cocky they think everything is autodidactable. > > I don't know what that means, nor does google apparently. > > >>> Developers 'private testing'? There's nothing private about the tests >>> you deliver with the code. >> >> Private testing means whatever the developer did to verify his >> program. It doesn't matter whether he publishes it or not. > > > What sort of verifying and publishing do you mean? > > Agile dev work requires that you write testable code and the tests > that go with it - it all must be delivered into the build. The build > will repeatedly run those tests, as will all the other devs before > they deliver code. > > >>> Regarding regressions, Agile is all about >>> avoiding regressions and confident refactoring, all based on the tests >>> written by the developers. >>> >> >> which won't run if they are not designed to be robust enough to be >> repeatable and are unlikely to be repeatable unless they are planned >> and if they are planned why on earth wouldn't you document that. > > By definition they have to be repeatable because they are run as part > of the continuous build repeatedly thousands of times. > > >>> Read up on continuous build. The codebase >>> is continuously tested - there is no 'regression pack' any more, its >>> all done as part of the build. >>> >> >> You're getting carried away with buzzwords. >> http://sqa.stackexchange.com/questions/643/fitting-regression-testing-in-a-agile-scrum-development-cycle > > What is that link telling me? (continuous build is no more of a > buzzword than 'xml' these days) > > >>> Despite the numerous variations in how people 'do agile', that area >>> has been consistent since the beginning. >>> >> >> No it hasn't but never mind. > > Sigh, it has. The Martin Fowler article is good read on this: > http://martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html > > >> There is a very simple reason for the success of TDD. It is not an >> inherently superior development methodology but it has one crucial >> feature that no other methodology has. It's the only methodology that >> has managed to trick developers into doing testing > > ! That made me smile. > > <this_will_sound_patronising>You should get some experience of Agile > and modern dev work in general, before continuing this thread</... > Something I meant to slip in yesterday. My client absolutely loves Kernow..... kudos for writing it. Respect. 
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