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RE: hypermedia affordances

• From: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
• To: Len Bullard <Len.Bullard@ses-i.com>
• Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:36:17 +0000

Len,

You are 100% right, this is going to take some time, as it should.  On Monday, I'll go back to _work_, because I have an exciting project starting there, and they need my attention.  So, I'll respond to emails on xml-dev that are addressed to me, but I can't pour too much more effort into MicroXML in the next little while.  

I was looking over some old emails on xml-dev from early 2000s and it struck me that the rush is what caused the problems that MicroXML is trying to solve, but may not because of the rush again.

Now I thought hypermedia affordances was a slam dunk, and maybe it is, but it certainly shouldn't be rushed.

I don't believe in princes, but I respect people's work.  The community is King.  I also believe in mental health, and trying to rush  things leaves other stuff out.

I am lucky enough to be able to attend the IETF meeting in Vancouver this month, as a fact-finding / training opportunity.  If you, or anyone else happens to be there, please, find me for a chat.

There are no heroes, no villains.  Pride is the only enemy.

Regards,
Peter Rushforth
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From: Rushforth, Peter [Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca]
Sent: July 7, 2012 3:08 AM
To: John Cowan
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: RE:  hypermedia affordances

And wouldn't that be pretty close to SGML?
and aren't there SGML parsers that could be updated?
and wouldn't json be parsable as SGML?
and isn't SGML an international standard?

Peter
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From: Rushforth, Peter [Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca]
Sent: July 7, 2012 2:21 AM
To: John Cowan
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: RE:  hypermedia affordances

John,

I liked 6a:

http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/201007/msg00059.html

Peter
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From: John Cowan [cowan@ccil.org] on behalf of John Cowan [cowan@m...]
Sent: July 6, 2012 10:45 PM
To: Rushforth, Peter
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re:  hypermedia affordances

Rushforth, Peter scripsit:

> I thought MicroXML ditched namespace prefixes:
>
> http://blog.jclark.com/2010/12/more-on-microxml.html

I added them back for attributes only:

  http://ccil.org/~cowan/MicroXML.html section 4.2

Note that you aren't required to declare a prefix unless you want
compatibility with XML tools.

> Maybe that's why uptake is less than enthusiastic so far?

I think the people who would care about MicroXML don't know anything
about it yet.  Things may start to change after the SD Times article.

--
John Cowan       http://www.ccil.org/~cowan        <cowan@ccil.org>
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        You spigotty anglease?  Nnn.  You phonio saxo?  Nnnn.
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  • Re: "Introducing MicroXML, Part 1: Explore the basic principlesof ...
    • From: Mike Sokolov <sokolov@ifactory.com>
  • Re: hypermedia affordances
    • From: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Len Bullard" <Len.Bullard@ses-i.com>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Len Bullard" <Len.Bullard@ses-i.com>
  • Re: hypermedia affordances
    • From: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Len Bullard" <Len.Bullard@ses-i.com>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
  • Re: hypermedia affordances
    • From: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>
  • RE: hypermedia affordances
    • From: "Rushforth, Peter" <Peter.Rushforth@NRCan-RNCan.gc.ca>