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I notice that last link - the semantic web OWL rendering - is version 0.1 so just at a kind of proof of concept stage but I notice too it has a creative commons licence so maybe you could use it with some XSLT to convert the codes into a genericode codelist for the SI codes. ---- Stephen D Green On 11 April 2011 10:28, Stephen D Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com> wrote: > Here seem to be published the MathML rendering of SI Units in OWL format > Very nice! > > http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Semantic_MathML/0.1#SI_Units > > ---- > Stephen D Green > > > > On 11 April 2011 10:18, Stephen D Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com> wrote: >> UBL does publish the SI codes within the overall standard UOM codelist >> and packages it nicely as a genericode codelist here >> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.0/cl/gc/cefact/UnitOfMeasureCode-2.0.gc >> >> but the codes aren't grouped and ordered like they are in MathML Units. >> MathML Units is probably what you want here, but do they publish the codelists >> in XML format? >> >> ---- >> Stephen D Green >> >> >> >> On 11 April 2011 10:04, Stephen D Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Try MathML units >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/mathml-units/ >>> ---- >>> Stephen D Green >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 April 2011 09:25, Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com> wrote: >>>> On 10/04/2011 06:23, Toby Considine wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Interesting question, and one that goes to the heart of some of my current >>>>> obsessions... >>>>> >>>>> Is there a standard XSD of SI units for inclusion somewhere on the web >>>>> >>>>> And >>>>> >>>>> Is there a standard XSD of SI scale ( peta / tera / giga / mega/ ...) for >>>>> inclusion anywhere on the web? >>>> >>>> As you probably know given your affiliation, the decimal SI abbreviations >>>> (K, M, G etc, for 10^3, 10^6 etc) are defined in ISO 1000:2004, and the >>>> binary prefixes (Ki, Mi, Gi, which we should use for 2^10, 2^20 etc, but >>>> don't) are defined in ISO 80000-13:2008. >>>> >>>> But I'm not aware of any standard that maps these into XSD types. >>>> >>>> Michael Kay >>>> Saxonica >>>>> >>>>> tc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not >>>>> become a monster, and if you stare long into an abyss, the abyss also >>>>> stares >>>>> into you." - Fredrich Nietzche >>>>> >>>>> Toby Considine >>>>> TC9, Inc >>>>> TC Chair: oBIX& WS-Calendar >>>>> TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop >>>>> U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture >>>>> Committee >>>>> >>>>> Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com >>>>> Phone: (919)619-2104 >>>>> http://www.tcnine.com/ >>>>> blog: www.NewDaedalus.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Liam R E Quin [mailto:liam@w3.org] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:41 PM >>>>> To: John Cowan >>>>> Cc: Costello, Roger L.; xml-dev@lists.xml.org >>>>> Subject: Re: ANN: a portable data component -- length >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 15:55 -0400, John Cowan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Liam R E Quin scripsit: >>>>>> >>>>>>> (I'd use metric/SI units in a program as they're easier to deal >>>>>>> with, and mixed-based ambiguity like 3 feet 7 inches doesn't occur) >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want to represent measurements, as distinct from counts, you >>>>>> need to provide the measurement in the units actually measured. >>>>> >>>>> +1 if they are actually being measured; one also has to give tolerance. >>>>> >>>>> On Pete Cordell's point, the name of the element - I used<measurement> >>>>> rather than<distance> for no good or bad reason - one can't know a priori >>>>> whether the fact it's a measurement is more or less important than the >>>>> fact >>>>> it's a linear measurement through space, a distance. One is not >>>>> intrinsically more "semantic" than the other. But we can know that >>>>> there's >>>>> a common danger in using element names for field names that come from some >>>>> non-XML source, as you might end up with non-XML chracters to deal with, >>>>> or >>>>> markup in the field name -- e.g. mathematical notation, or annotations >>>>> (Japanese ruby comes to mind). >>>>> >>>>> Someone else said that Normal Form is no gold standard - it isn't, but the >>>>> principle of not duplicating data still holds. If Costelloitis takes >>>>> hold, >>>>> you should at least mark which of two values is primary and which was >>>>> derived. >>>>> >>>>> <jug id="jug"> >>>>> <capacity units="imperial_UK">4 gallons</capacity> >>>>> <capacity units="US" derivedfrom="imperial_UK">4.5 gallons</capacity> >>>>> <size>little</size> >>>>> <colour>brown</colour> >>>>> </jug> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ >>>>> Pictures >>>>> from old books: http://www.fromoldbooks.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS >>>>> to support XML implementation and development. 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