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Thanks Ken, As I think about it, maybe the two way relationship is not essential. The schema could contain references to an RDF or OWL model or contain copies of extracts from the model. GRDDL gives a precedent by inserting RDFXML inside XSD schema annotations. If RDFXML fragments were placed in schema annotations it might provide enough mapping information. The other direction, ontology to schema, has merit but maybe is not essential. It would be one to many anyway. I agree a table might not be suitable for complex hierachies though. What seems to me to be a key measure of success use case is that a query or other expression put i terms of the 'model' or 'ontology' classes and properties can return results when run against the XML. Maybe for this there has to be a way to start with the model so the above might not be appropriate. Unless, that is, you take the expression in SPARQL and a schema URL and get the result by finding the appropriate RDF expressions embedded in the schema and using the information of where they occur in the schema to find the nodes in the XML needed to resolve the expression. Anyway, RDFXML extracts in a schema together with an ontology might let us associate 'iSa' and 'hasA' relationships with elements and types in a schema. Then queries and constraints and assertions can be made and executed in terms of model semantics as distinct from structure alone. Stephen D Green -----Original Message----- From: G. Ken Holman Sent: 08/05/2010 1:45:40 pm Subject: RE: 'is-a' Relationships in XML? My gut feel is "no", because genericode is suitable for expressing a fully- or sparsely-populated keyed table. Given that both ontologies and schemas are hierarchical, and the table and its key are flat, it may take too much shoehorning to suitably express context when ontology and schema members have the same names in different contexts. For schemas expressed using naming and design rules such as UBL's NDRs, it starts to make more sense to use genericode because the uniqueness for the key is found in the parent/child relationship of elements. Context is uniquely found in parents in UBL. I can imagine two columns: parent and child, and the genericode key being the combination of the two, and then supplemental information about that unique context in the columns. Of course in UBL there already exists a single key value for parent/child relationships, that being the dictionary entry name, but that may not be true for other schemas that have uniqueness in the parent/child combination. For the next issue to go two ways as you ask, it would then be necessary in genericode to express every member of the ontology uniquely. So it would depend on properties of the ontology to know if such a key-able value exists. I hope this helps. . . . . . . . . . . . Ken At 2010-05-08 10:42 +0000, stephengreenubl@gmail.com wrote: >Maybe OASIS open's genericode could be used for mapping two ways >between ontology and schema for the markup. > >Stephen D Green > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Stephen Green >Sent: 06/05/2010 4:52:07 pm >Subject: Re: 'is-a' Relationships in XML? > >Maybe, as with character sets, what we need are three kinds of artefacts >to more completely define the markup > >1. schema (to define the structure and structural constraints) >2. ontology (to define the semantics - the real world things and >concepts to which the markup relates) >3. mapping table (to map between 1. and 2.) > >Again, as with my analogy to character sets and their mapping tables, >we'd ideally need to use the table when 'understanding' the underlying >markup (as a table is used to 'understand' ASCII in its binary/hex form). > >In some cases it might be possible to combine 2. and 3. (or even 1. and 3.). >E.g. maybe RDF's 'about' can be used somehow with a combination of URL >(or the like) and XPath (or the like) - or just XQuery??? - to denote >the mappings. >Or maybe the RDF would want it the other way round to map XML to the >meaning (mapping XPaths/XQueries to RDF classes and properties via 'about'?) >But the lookups need, I think, to be able to work both ways, which might be >more than can be done with RDF alone. > >Best regards > >Steve >--- >Stephen D Green -- Principles of XSLT for XQuery Writers: San Francisco,CA 2010-05-03 XSLT/XQuery/UBL/Code List training: Trondheim,Norway 2010-06-02/11 Vote for your XML training: http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/x/i/ Crane Softwrights Ltd. http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/x/ G. 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