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RE: Schemas and the open world assumption.

• From: "Jim Tivy" <jimt@bluestream.com>
• To: "'Olivier Rossel'" <olivier.rossel@gmail.com>,<xml-dev@l...>
• Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:37:54 -0700

Hi Oliver

Not sure I fully follow - could you provide the XML Schema types and syntax?
I am not sure if a and aa are types or elements - seems like you may mean
they are both?

Jim
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Olivier Rossel [mailto:olivier.rossel@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:04 AM
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject:  Schemas and the open world assumption.

Hello everyone.

Sorry to be 5 years late, but it is just today that I question myself
about derivation by extension and closed world assumption.

Please do not hesitate to comment the following points:

If I define "a" as being a sequence of b,c:
<a>
 <b/>
 <c/>
</a>

and i extend "a" into "aa" that extends that sequence with d:
<aa>
 <b/>
 <c/>
 <d/>
</aa>

then any "aa" will not validate against the definition of "a".
right?
this sounds like a MAJOR difference with OO paradigm (where any "aa" is
also a "a").

that is what i call the closed world assumption in xml validation.

considering i need a more open world approach, i plan
to relax my schema by defining "a" in this way:
<a>
 <b/>
 <c/>
 <xsd:any>
</a>

then i feel like i could extend my "a" definition  without breaking
the "subclass" philosophy.

can anyone comment that point of view?
i am especially interested in possible pitfalls i could have missed in
using the "any" statement.
i am also interested in best practices when defining modular expandable
models.

any help is very welcome.

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