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RE: Serialization of XDM - Use cases / Proposal

  • From: "Jim Tivy" <jimt@bluestream.com>
  • To: "'Jim Tivy'" <jimt@bluestream.com>,"'David A. Lee'" <dlee@c...>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:22:18 -0700

RE:  Serialization of XDM - Use cases / Proposal
Here is a better description of the use case I have:

There are a number "templating" technologies in use for defining web pages;
for example PHP, ASP and JSP.  These templating languages have been very
successful.  When these templates "execute", they produce an HTML page as an
HTTP response.  These templating technologies allow you to mix html tags
with program logic to create web pages dynamically.  These templating
languages, as a rule, are text based in that they define a page by
concatenating HTML chunks of text together.  For example, in a JSP file,
sometimes these HTML chunks are literal text and other times they are
calculated and "injected inline" into the output - always as text.

It should be possible to inject an XDM text serialization (a sequence of
<div> tags and children, for instance) as returned by
getPipelineSerialization () call in this simple JSP page shown below: 

<html>
   <body>
      <% out.write(getPipelineSerialization("mypipeline")); %>
   </body>
</html>

examples of jsps:

http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/html/jspbasics.fm.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Tivy [mailto:jimt@bluestream.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:12 PM
To: 'David A. Lee'
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org; talk@x...; 'XProc Dev'
Subject: RE:  Serialization of XDM - Use cases / Proposal

Hi David

We use XDM serialization - for a simple sequence.  We have a pipeline that
we execute and the last node is XPath /html/body/* of an upstream html
document - we call it html core output.  We use this in JSP (java server
pages) code where we wish to establish the css files and meta tags but serve
up the html content from the pipeline.

If you like I can write this up in your wiki.

Jim

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David A. Lee [mailto:dlee@calldei.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:07 PM
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org; talk@x...; XProc Dev
Subject: Re:  Serialization of XDM - Use cases / Proposal

I have created a first pass at documenting the problem of XDM 
Serialization and created some use cases.
I would love any feedback or comments.  This is on a new wiki I created 
for this purpose.  If you would like to comment directly on the wiki 
please reply to me and I will give you the invite code (due to the sad 
state of affairs anonymous comments and editing are disabled due to 
wiki-spam-bots.  I've found spam within 5 minutes of opening a public 
wiki ... <sigh> )


http://xml.calldei.com/XDMSerialize

I have NOT included a proposal for a format yet, I'd like to discuss the 
intent and use cases first before putting up a straw-man proposal.

Thank you for any contribution !

I've CC'd this to xproc-dev because one of the use cases if for 
developers and integrators with XML Pipeline processors such as XProc


David A. Lee
dlee@calldei.com  
http://www.calldei.com
http://www.xmlsh.org
812-482-5224




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