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Re: XHTML 2 Working Group won't be renewed?

  • From: Aad Kamsteeg <a.kamsteeg@diderottrack.nl>
  • To: XML Developers List <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:29:59 +0200

Re:  XHTML 2 Working Group won't be renewed?
working the detail
defining real life rulings
operate smoothly

With kind regards,
Aad Kamsteeg

Diderot Track 
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On 9Jul, 2009, at 16:28 PM, Dylan Thomas wrote:

what the [expletive deleted] are you lot on about? who gives a fuckin [expletive deleted], get a life

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Michael Ludwig<mlu@a...> wrote:
Michael Kay schrieb:

So who's aware of the obscure namespace issue should be aware of the
DTD feature of supplementing the document with default values. It's
like assuming as a given a child's ability to ride a bicycle but not
assuming it can walk.

I disagree. It's possible to have a DTD ignored

With an explicit <?xml version="1.0" standalone="yes"?>.

Or by telling it to ignore the DTD by doing setLoadExternalDTD(false).

or substituted by a different DTD by invoking the parser in a
different way. That shouldn't cause names to be in a different
namespace, but it does.

But then, what about parser.setDoNamespaces(false) ?

We often see problems where people show us an XML instance and an
XPath expression that fails to find elements in the instance, and it
turns out that there's a sneaky namespace declaration in the DTD

I'd rather call it unobtrusive (but I'm not 100 % sure this is still
bona fide).

After some testing, I think I'd rather concede that setting the
namespace via the DTD is not necessarily to be universally recommended
as parsers vary considerably as to their default settings, and I admit
I've had problems because I didn't configure the parser appropriately.

Michael Ludwig

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