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Re: XHTML 2 Working Group won't be renewed?

• From: Dylan Thomas <epwllheli@gmail.com>
• To: Michael Ludwig <mlu@as-guides.com>
• Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:28:06 +0100

what the [expletive deleted] are you lot on about? who gives a fuckin [expletive deleted], get a life

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Michael Ludwig<mlu@as-guides.com> wrote:
> Michael Kay schrieb:
>>>
>>> So who's aware of the obscure namespace issue should be aware of the
>>> DTD feature of supplementing the document with default values. It's
>>> like assuming as a given a child's ability to ride a bicycle but not
>>> assuming it can walk.
>>
>> I disagree. It's possible to have a DTD ignored
>
> With an explicit <?xml version="1.0" standalone="yes"?>.
>
> Or by telling it to ignore the DTD by doing setLoadExternalDTD(false).
>
>> or substituted by a different DTD by invoking the parser in a
>> different way. That shouldn't cause names to be in a different
>> namespace, but it does.
>
> But then, what about parser.setDoNamespaces(false) ?
>
>> We often see problems where people show us an XML instance and an
>> XPath expression that fails to find elements in the instance, and it
>> turns out that there's a sneaky namespace declaration in the DTD
>
> I'd rather call it unobtrusive (but I'm not 100 % sure this is still
> bona fide).
>
> After some testing, I think I'd rather concede that setting the
> namespace via the DTD is not necessarily to be universally recommended
> as parsers vary considerably as to their default settings, and I admit
> I've had problems because I didn't configure the parser appropriately.
>
> Michael Ludwig
>
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