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Re: What is declarative XML? (And what's not)

  • From: Greg Hunt <greg@firmansyah.com>
  • To: XML Developers List <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:43:14 +1000

Re:  What is declarative XML? (And what's not)
Fuzziness is not only a feature of quantum mechanics, its a core feature of human communication... and that fuzziness is what causes Roger's desire for self-contained/processing-semantics-free and processing contexst-free documents to break down.  How do you exclude assumed semantics?
 
I'm also not convinced that Len is trying to be intelligible. 
 
Greg

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Kurt Cagle <kurt.cagle@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, god, we're entering into the world of quantum XML!!

Overall, however, I'm not sure this is the most accurate conceptual metaphor. I'm much more inclined to see various potentially overlapping models as being frames of reference in describing reality, in essence more of a relativistic approach, with transformations acting as tensors mapping completely or incompletely between these frames of reference.

The problem with contemporary computational semantics (RDF et al) is that assertions are binary - there is absolutely nothing in RDF that can be used to view assertions in a stochastic or fuzzy manner, which is one of the fundamental characteristics of quantum systems. You can make a reasonably strong case for being able to make logical inferences with RDF - this was what it grew out of, of course. However, there's no formal mechanism in RDF as it stands right now to be able to say "the probability or strength of assertion X is 0.75". That's not to say that this couldn't be introduced, mind you, and I'm not so sure that it's necessarily a bad idea, though the processing becomes considerably more complex at that point once you do make that step.


Kurt Cagle
Managing Editor
http://xmltoday.org/


On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Len Bullard <cbullard@hiwaay.net> wrote:
The concept analogizes semantic coherence to interferometric visibility and
semantic intensity to intent of communicative speech act as expressed in the
syntax.

Treat the name and label particles like wave functions where each element
has intensity.

What would the coherence/decoherence properties of RDF be contrasted to
HTML?  I think the coherence length of RDF statements would be better
because they are unentangled until related.

len


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