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RE: A single, all-encompassing data validation language - good

• From: "Paul Kiel" <paul@x...>
• To: "'Costello, Roger L.'" <costello@m...>,<xml-dev@l...>
• Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:08:49 -0400

Interesting thread.  I would agree not to reinvent the wheel in terms of
schematron.  What I hear from clients and would like to see myself is a way
to add the schematron-like constraints to a schema and validate in one pass.
As it is now, it takes 2 passes to validate.  Once for the schema and
another to validate the additional constraints.  If the "hooks" you mention
would lead parser writers to incorporate validation of both of these in one
pass, then I would say "yea!".

Cheers,
Paul Kiel




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-----Original Message-----
From: Costello, Roger L. [mailto:costello@m...] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:33 AM
To: xml-dev@l...
Subject: RE:  A single, all-encompassing data validation language -
good or bad for the marketplace?

Chris Scott wrote:

> Since we already have ISO Schematron, why not define a standard way
to
> include Schematron in XML Schema?  ... why reinvent the wheel?

This seems reasonable to me.  Rather than the XML Schema working group
essentially reinventing a less-powerful version of Schematron, wouldn't
it be more beneficial to the marketplace if the XML Schema working
group created standard "hooks" for inclusion of Schematron
patterns/rules/assertions?  Then a user has the option of implementing
data validation requirements either by embedding Schematron into an XML
Schema, or keeping the schemas separate in a pipeline fashion.

And hey XML Schema working group, how about also creating standard
hooks for inclusion of other schema languages, such as Relax NG and
RefleX?  And how about supporting a building block approach to
implementing data validation requirements?

Rick Jelliffe, how about jumping into this discussion?

/Roger

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