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Re: Xlink Isn't Dead

• From: Ben Trafford <ben@p...>
• To: "Alexander Johannesen" <alexander.johannesen@g...>
• Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:29:22 -0400

At 08:17 PM 9/22/2006, Alexander Johannesen wrote:
>The word "style" and its "meaning", I suppose. :) To me, style is
>presentation and as such only a part of an application of something.
>Links is more than presentation, they speak of things "larger" than
>that. That's all.

         Yes, and it's a part of the application that's woefully unrepresented.

>>tricks? I'm willing to bet it's quite a few. An example: the Flickr
>>sidebar at http://www.shelter.nu/.
>
>Not sure I follow you here. What scripting tricks? What is the *trick*?

         I mean this code on your site:

<script type="text/javascript" 
src="http://www.flickr.com/badge_code_v2.gne?show_name=1&amp;count=5&amp;display=random&amp;size=t&amp;layout=v&amp;source=user&amp;user=93544306%40N00"></script>

         How much work went into creating the Javascript to display 
that sidebar? Wouldn't it have been much nicer to simply say:

         <flickrBar userID="93544306" />

         And have CSS do the rest by intelligent placing an embedded, 
"onLoad" link?

><confused> Which part of "80/20 of linking" doesn't xhtml:href cover?
></confused>

         Actuation and display of anything beyond single, unidirectional links.

         Examples:

         A menubar link - one click gives you multiple choices. 
Sounds like a multi-ended resource to me!

         A document compiled from multiple document fragments - like 
what people are doing with inclusion scripts all over the place, 
specifically in CMS applications.

         Embedding dynamic content into a document - like your Flickr sidebar.

         When we think of rendering links, we need to think beyond 
"click and you go there," and we need to think beyond <a>. When 
defining where the 80/20 is on links, we need to look at how 
resources are being used today -- not how <a> links are being used, 
but <img>, <object> and more to the point, the host of scripting 
tricks commonly used on the Web.

--->Ben 

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