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RE: CLAX - Client-side functionality - OFFTOPIC,Firefox suppor

• To: lists@j..., 'peter murray-rust' <pm286@c...>
• Subject: RE: CLAX - Client-side functionality - OFFTOPIC,Firefox supports SVG
• From: Didier PH Martin <martind@n...>
• Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:17:55 -0400
• Cc: 'XML Developers List' <xml-dev@l...>
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• In-reply-to: <44C3D763.8040309@j...>

Hello Jeff,

Jeff said:
Sorry Peter, I know you wanted this thread to stay on topic, but there 
has been a lot of xml-dev talk lately about how Firefox has poor support 
of SVG. That may not be your argument but I wanted to point out that the 
SVGs in that file don't work in Firefox because they aren't wellformed. 
Once you correct the incorrect GE ref to &ns_graphs;(and the sodipodi 
element in the 3rd one), Firefox can handle it. Even though Firefox 
supports SVG 1.1 it attempts to display the 1.0 document presented and 
does so almost 100% consistent to Adobe's renderer. Inkscape also 
supports the document primarily because of its status as an editor and 
the expectation that it would be attempting to render incomplete documents.

Didier replies:
Dam Jeff you're fast.

This raises a new point: update of the transformation document to get in
tune with new versions. This is what people are doing anyway to stay in
phase with Java. More than one time I encountered problems of
incompatibility brought by new java run times or new JDKs. This is why most
of the install programs have a java run-time check before installation. Why
not having same thing for datument or more specifically for their transform
script/template? We expect too much from browsers it seems.

OK everybody,

 I'll count 1, 2, 3 and you'll wake up. What you thought about browsers,
standards, W3C, compatibility, cross-platform is not necessarily true. I
know, this is deceiving but nothing changed under the computer sun in the
last 30 years. Same issues, same vested interests, just different actors,
different wallets :-)

More seriously, what about a small environment to check the platform (i.e.
the browser version, manufacturer) and either ask for what is required,
download it (after the user's approval) and run it? Anyway, the alternative
based on IBM's version of Java (yes, this is another hypnotic trance here,
the java world is not standardized and homogeneous) will ask for the same
things doesn't it? OK I'll count from 1 to three and....  :-) 

You know what? This small run-time can be made in ECMAScript/Javascript...
What? Some people disable scripting in their browsers? Is this a recall of
the Sisyphus myth?

OK, I know, working on Sunday is like being exposed to radiations, too much
is bad for the health, let's go for a good jog in the woods. Mosquitoes and
all forest inhabitants, here I come :-) 

Cheers
Didier PH Martin

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