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> -----Original Message----- > From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:len.bullard@i...] > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:37 AM > To: 'bryan rasmussen' > Cc: XML Developers List > Subject: RE: Semantic Web for the Masses, by the Masses > > It's been some time since TimBL was actually driving the > evolution of the web. He doesn't buy anything big enough to do that. > > No one notices because the forces that do drive the evolution > tend to be on the requirements side of the boundary and what > the majority notice is what the publication machinery > notices. Find a dispute, trot out a luminary, case closed, > move on to next newsworthy dispute. Resolved? Ok. What > *drives* evolution of the web? I am picking terms carefully there. > > Are SOA and Semantic web different technologies? In general, yes - because SOA as an architectural paradigm does not require any Web capabilities. Of course, they can be the same in some cases - e.g. semantic Web Services (the work of the fairly new OASIS Semantic Execution Environment (SEE) TC). > Are they separately required (I did not say specified or > standardized)? I believe yes, given my comments above. Joe Kind Regards, Joseph Chiusano Associate Booz Allen Hamilton 700 13th St. NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20005 O: 202-508-6514 C: 202-251-0731 Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com > len > > > From: bryan rasmussen [mailto:rasmussen.bryan@g...] > > >All of the > > decisions that determine the direction of the evolution of the web > >are being made by people who never write a line of code. I > know the > >myth is otherwise and it is a very useful myth, but it is exactly > >that and no more. > > Are some of these decisions made by people who have written a > line of code? No waitaminute, I think I saw a blog post > lately where Tim Berners-Lee munged together some script to > do some little thing. Does this count as writing code, and is > he high enough level in the not so far clarified hierarchy of > the world you seem to be referring to that he can be said to > have something to do with the evolution of the web? > > Do these people who make decisions without ever writing code > ask for position papers from people who sometimes writes code > (for some values of the term 'code')? Or do they sometimes > just whitestamp something on the basis of what someone who > writes code (infrequently I'm sure) tells them? > > Do the people who write position papers for the non-code > writers to consume and consider before coming with their > decisions ever interact with people who do their little blog > stuff? I think it might be an ecosystem, at least enough of > one that blanket denunciations of the myth are disputable. > > Then again I agree the possession of authority by blogging in > some folks does lead to grandiose visions of influence. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org > <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS > <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > >
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