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> -----Original Message----- > From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:len.bullard@i...] > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:12 PM > To: 'Paul Downey'; Michael Champion > Cc: Chiusano Joseph; xml-dev@l... > Subject: RE: Will The Real SOA Please Sit Down? > > > http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20 > 05121017631.gi > f > > We have that one posted on a bulletin board outside the hall. > It might be > funny if it weren't so true. > > The problem of SOA is that abstract concepts not grounded in > pricelist technologies lead to an infinite set of points on a > line where each point is > > a cost. The more you measure, the higher the cost. > > The SOA RM obligates the business/sales organization to > create a business model of each business type as a set of > composite services that are then implemented or mapped to > physical web services (or Howie carrying buckets of snail > mail from room to room). > > As useful as the RM is at defining the terminology, it > doesn't help explain to a customer, say, the distinctions > between data warehousing and peer to peer services, or in > other words, real Business Intelligence systems vs. > massively indexed search services. Agreed - a reference architecture may help this (we have just begun a reference architecture effort within the OASIS SOA-RM TC). The Reference Model is too abstract (as reference models are, by nature) to be definitively tied to scenarios that are that concrete. > One wishes it were like a Mexican restaurant where there are > fifty items on the menu made of six fast to cook cheap > ingredients. Unfortunately, it is exactly the reverse so all > of the initial risks are assumed by the vendor using the SOA > RM as a basis for an RFP. I'm not envisioning vendors using the OASIS SOA-RM as the basis for an RFP (too abstract), but am open to possibilities. Joe Joseph Chiusano Associate Booz Allen Hamilton 700 13th St. NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20005 O: 202-508-6514 C: 202-251-0731 Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com > len > > From: Paul Downey [mailto:paul.downey@w...] > > On 10 Jan 2006, at 17:18, Michael Champion wrote: > > > So, "web services" are a set of architecturally-neutral > technologies, > > whereas "service architectures" are a technologically > neutral design > > principles. > > As much as I like this distinction, both terms are > essentially "meaning neutral". >
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