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Re: ISO schemaTron

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• Subject: Re: ISO schemaTron
• From: "Fraser Goffin" <goffinf@h...>
• Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:25:39 +0000
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Uche,

no I am not constrained to using XSLT per se but I do prefer it because of 
its portability.

You kindly pointed me at your Scimitar implementation when answering another 
schemaTron question for me a while back and I did download it and talk to 
some of my design colleagues. Our (current) opinion which is partly based on 
our level of maturity and the technology policy of our organisation, was 
that we couldn't really contemplate the implementation of critical aspects 
of enterprise applications based on a technology we know so little about and 
have virtually no skills in (I know you said you don't need to know Python, 
but I'm not just talking about development skills, its operational support 
for the live environment which is typically our major issue). I would 
definately consider a Java implementation of ISO SchemaTron if you know of 
one (sorry I know thats a bit cheeky given your Amara implementation, but 
schemaTron seems to be losing a little bit of traction, so all publicity is 
good).

Fraser.


>From: Uche Ogbuji <Uche.Ogbuji@f...>
>To: xml-dev@l...
>Subject: Re:  ISO schemaTron
>Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:27:14 -0700
>
>On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 07:39 -0500, G. Ken Holman wrote:
> > At 2005-11-23 12:13 +0000, Fraser Goffin wrote:
> > >Does anyone have an update on schemaTron ISO ratification ?
> >
> > ISO/IEC 19757-3 Schematron is currently past the FCD stage and is
> > awaiting the next FDIS stage as indicated in the up-to-date committee
> > Secretariat Report that is publicly viewable at all times:
> >
> >   http://www.jtc1sc34.org/document/secretariat_temp.html#matrix  (a 
>large page)
> >   http://www.jtc1sc34.org/document/secretariat_temp.html#is19757-3
> >
> > >I currently use the XSLT reference implementation for 1.5, but like
> > >many others I suspect, am very interested in some of the proposed
> > >new features such as abstract patterns, let and include.
> >
> > I found a bug in the 1.5 implementation w.r.t. using attributes as a
> > context, so I've posted a modified version of 1.5 here:
> >
> >    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200511/msg00103.html
> >
> > >If my XSLT skills were better I might have a go at creating new
> > >'skeleton' and XML ouput implementations, but alas they are not
> > >really up to it.
> >
> > Would that any of us could make the time to do so.
> >
> > >Does anyone out there have plans to produce an ISO XSLT
> > >implementation any time soon :-) ??
>
>Wot Ken said across the board, but I did want to ask whether you are
>constrained to use XSLT.  There are some non-XSLT implementations
>available based on the ISO drafts, including the desired features you
>mentioned.  I should know because I've written one of them: Scimitar
>(part of Amara [1]).  Scimitar is implemented in Python, but you don't
>have to be a Python programmer to use it: you can just run it from the
>command line on most platforms.
>
>[1] http://uche.ogbuji.net/tech/4suite/amara/
>
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>Uche Ogbuji                               Fourthought, Inc.
>http://uche.ogbuji.net                    http://fourthought.com
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