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Re: Is Web 2.0 the new XML?

• To: Chiusano Joseph <chiusano_joseph@b...>
• Subject: Re: Is Web 2.0 the new XML?
• From: "M. David Peterson" <m.david.x2x2x@g...>
• Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:37:39 -0600
• Cc: Kurt Cagle <kurt.cagle@g...>, "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <len.bullard@i...>, martind@n..., Alan Gutierrez <alan-xml-dev@e...>, Gerald Bauer <gerald.bauer@m...>, xml-dev@l...
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Hi Joseph,

Kurt's enroute to SVG 2005 (see
http://www.understandingxml.com/archives/2005/08/on_my_way_to_sv.html)
and after chatting with him on the phone the other night my guess is
that he will have little, if any, time to keep up with email.

Just wanted to insert this so you would understand if he doesn't
happen to reply for a while...

Cheers :)

On 8/12/05, Chiusano Joseph <chiusano_joseph@b...> wrote:
>  
> <Quote> 
> meaning that creatives are leaving the country in droves. 
> </Quote> 
>   
> Please supply public statistics that support this assertion. 
>   
> Joe 
>   
> Joseph Chiusano 
> Booz Allen Hamilton 
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>  ________________________________
>  From: Kurt Cagle [mailto:kurt.cagle@g...] 
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:17 PM
> To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
> Cc: martind@n...; Alan Gutierrez; Gerald Bauer;
> xml-dev@l...
> Subject: Re:  Is Web 2.0 the new XML?
> 
>  
> When social networks become the dominant control for
>  
>  
> > organizing information, finding facts will become 
> > even harder.   The current brouhaha in the American
> > culture wars over intelligent design is emblematic
> > of the process of power seeking over fact seeking.
> > In the process, the Americans are destroying their
> > educational and scientific foundations for competition.
> > Watching the web replicate this process in the name
> > of 'democratization' is almost absurdist (as in
> > the theatre of the absurd).
> > 
> 
> I'm an American who has moved to Canada largely because I can no longer 
> stand the cannibalisation of the "public good" in favor of security and
> profit.
> However, I'd also caution against looking at the web in the same light as
> what's
> happening in the US. The forces acting on the 
> web are much lower level than democratization - they are impulse feedback
> systems
> within a complex non-linear system,with information flows taking the place
> of energy.
> Such flows seek the paths of least resistance, which means that attempts to
> place 
> boundaries on the web can be achieved in the short term, but usually at the
> cost of
> that information flowing around the fences in the long term. 
> 
> The US is entering a particularly troubling phase, a time of corporate
> fascism and imperial 
> ambitions that's been building for decades, but it is also becoming
> increasingly reactionary
> and fundamentalist ... meaning that creatives are leaving the country in
> droves. Given that
> the chief export of America is its creativity, this ultimately does not bode
> well for the ability 
> of the country to sustain its self-destructive behavior. On the web
> especially, creativity has
> far more currency than paper wealth. 
> 
> -- 
> Kurt Cagle
> http://www.understandingxml.com 


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M. David Peterson
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